| Stikye |
I am curious, this came up in my ponderings. If you have a readied action against a charge to cast Silent Image of a Giant wall/pit/army of dwarves in front of you. Would this affect the charging characters, since their straight line to charge you is now filled with a tub of jello, would they change their action? stop their charge? or would it be a waste of a spell since they can't change their decision once its been made?
Any help on how this would work?
| Bascaria |
I am curious, this came up in my ponderings. If you have a readied action against a charge to cast Silent Image of a Giant wall/pit/army of dwarves in front of you. Would this affect the charging characters, since their straight line to charge you is now filled with a tub of jello, would they change their action? stop their charge? or would it be a waste of a spell since they can't change their decision once its been made?
Any help on how this would work?
Spellcraft check to identify the spell as you cast it (if appropriate). Successful check means they ignore it.
Even then, a will save to disbelieve, with probably a +2 circumstantial bonus since they just saw you cast and then this thing appears. On a successful save they ignore it.
Failed check & save stops the charge.
| Bascaria |
Assume mounted fighters, charging on horse. No spell craft roll since they are big dumb fighters :) but according to the spell they only get a will save if the object is interacted with. Sitting 60ish feet away on a horse preparing a charge doesn't count as interacting does it?
If you ready an action against they charge, then it goes off at the moment they start their charge. If you are charging towards a wall at full tilt on a galloping courser, I'd be willing to say that that is interacting.
My general rule for what counts as "interaction":
(1) Spending a standard action on it counts as interacting. If spend a standard to listen closely to a ghost sound, you get the save.
(2) If you inadvertently touch it. Get bull rushed into a brick wall illusioned to look like a curtained window? Make a save to disbelieve.
(3) You see it appear in front of you. This means you are staring at a point, and then something appears there. Not just you happen to see an illusion because previously it was hidden from view. You have to actively see it come into existence.
King of Vrock
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Assume mounted fighters, charging on horse. No spell craft roll since they are big dumb fighters :) but according to the spell they only get a will save if the object is interacted with. Sitting 60ish feet away on a horse preparing a charge doesn't count as interacting does it?
No interacting with an Illusion requires the use of some kind of action. An example is using a move action to observe the fine details of whatever just appeared (Perception check). Of course chargin the illusion warrants a save as well.
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Starglim
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Wouldn't an obstruction of view make the charge impossible if someone made a huge wall.
Yes it would, if cast as a readied action before the attacker begins his charge.
They run into the jello. If they miss their save they beleive its real and slip. If they make it they realize that there isn't THAT much room for jello in the square with them and keep charging.
Better-quality cavalry are trained to charge into shield walls and worse. I agree that if already committed, they will try to charge through the Jello and thereby interact with it (mechanically, they should get a save to continue the charge). A riding horse or a non-warrior faced with the same thing will more likely balk and break their charge to try to avoid the visible obstacle.