maybe i'm a little late to the party but is it not odd that the only way to get diplomacy as a class skill from a trait is to follow Erastil a god who 'leading his followers by example and good deeds rather than flowery rhetoric'?
maybe i'm a little late to the party but is it not odd that the only way to get diplomacy as a class skill from a trait is to follow Erastil a god who 'leading his followers by example and good deeds rather than flowery rhetoric'?
I'm not sure which trait you're referring to, but there are a couple that would allow you to have Diplomacy as a class skill.
From the APG: Ease of Faith (Faith Trait), Well-Informed (Halfling Race Trait), World Traveler (Human Race Trait), Calistrian Prostitute (Religion Trait).
From the Inner Sea Primer: Fangwood Diplomat (Nirmathas Regional Trait).
More to come, after I do some digging. Hope this helps! :)
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Trait: Ease of Faith (religious) gets you that.
Trait: Charming (Social) can get you that.
Trait: Well Informed (Halfling Racial) can get you that.
Trait: WOrld Traveler (Human Racial) can get you that.
Trait: Claistian Prostitute (Religion adn world specific) can get you that.
Trait: Patient Optimist (erastil) DOES NOT give it to you as a class skill though you get a +2.There are also some alternate Racial Traits which go by the same name but are not TRAITS per se that can give it to you.
charming just gives a bonus to diplomacy
ease of faith i missed (thanks will work for character i have in mind)missed the others due to race idea.
still erastil's speaker seems odd.
With regard to Erastil' Speaker being odd... I get where your coming from, but I took a different slant to the trait.
I'm currently playing an Inquisitor of Old Deadeye (preacher archtype) and while he doesn't spout flowery retoric - my character does preach the words of The Parables of Erastil - which I see as good common sense, advice, principles and lessons according to Erastil's credo.
In that sense a follower of Erastil [who includes a strong sense/bond of community and family in his portfolio] could indeed have need of Diplomacy.
My 2 runes worth