Monk Weapon Group Issue


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Ultimate Combat has an updated/expanded weapon groups listing on page 45 which includes the Monk group of weapons. But after looking at the printed list and then at a manually compiled list of monk weapons (minus Adv's Armoury: hanbo), I find some discrepancies.

Here is the expanded list:

Spoiler:
bo staff
brass knuckles
butterfly sword
cestus
dan bong
double chained kama
double chicken saber
emei piercer
fighting fan
jutte
kama
kusarigama
kyoketsu shoge
lungshuan tamo
monk’s spade
nine-ring broadsword
nine-section whip
nunchaku
quarterstaff
rope dart
sai
sansetsukon
seven-branched sword
shan gou
shuriken
siangham
tiger fork
tonfa
tri-point double-edged sword
unarmed strike
urumi
wushu dart

And here is the compiled list:
Spoiler:
bo staff
brass knuckles
butterfly sword
cestus
dan bong
double chicken saber
double-chained kama
emei piercer
fighting fan
jutte
kama
knuckle axe
kusarigama
kyoketu shoge
lungchuan tamo
monk's spade
nin-ring broadsword
nine-section whip
nunchaku
quaterstaff
rope dart
sai
sansetsukon
seven-branched sword
shang gou
shuriken
siangham
temple sword
tiger fork
tonfa
wushu dart

3 weapons in the expanded list are not in the compiled list (tri-point double-edged sword, urumi, unarmed strike) while 2 weapons in the compiled list are not in the expanded list (knuckle axe, temple sword). Unarmed Strike I am going to ignore since it's inclusion is redundant with it being listed as "monk". The other 2 (tri-point double-edged sword, urumi) don't mention them as being "monk" in either the weapon tables or descriptions.
The knuckle axe is a variant of brass knuckles per it's description and is listed as monk in the table. The temple sword is listed as monk in the table also and mentioned as monk's being proficient in them.

My question, after this long preamble, is this: What is the status of these 4 weapons (ignoring unarmed strike)?


My guess is that they're all monk weapons; based on your post, nothing here contradicts anything else, does it?


No direct contradictions. Either the expanded list is missing 2 weapons or the weapon tables are missing the "monk" quality for 2 weapons. My guess is it's an editing oversight for whomever did the list/tables.


Was going to ask about this, as I just noticed it. Instead, I'll bump the thread, given the FAQ team is so actively lately. I suspect there's just some typos in the listing in UC, but they haven't been addressed at this time.

Everyone please tap the FAQ button and bump the thread to keep it active so other's see it.

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