I'd say yes.
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I pity your ignorance.
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I think you are ignorant on this topic.
Technically, no, as ignorance is not regarded as having personhood and therefore cannot be the subject of a "personal" attack.
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To take a more serious angle on this. Yes, and for several possible reasons.
1) As stated before, saying "I pity your X" rarely means there is actual pity behind the statement. Sort of along the lines of being in NC and hearing someone say "bless her/his heart" ...
2) Even if there is actual pity involved, some folks take offense at being shown pity in general.
3) Depending on what is being discussed, accusing someone of ignorance when the discussion is a debate over differing opinions 'ignorance' is a definitely charged term. There is a difference between actual ignorance (not knowing the facts regarding a topic) and charged ignorance (because you don't agree with the other person's point of view).
And, on the not so serious front,
4) If ignorance is bliss and you pity their ignorance then you are pitying someone for their bliss. How ignorant! ;)
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Every day I marvel at the things people post and think aren't personally insulting or abusive.
Every day I marvel at the things people post and think aren't personally insulting or abusive.Are you pitying their ignorance? ;)
No, he's marveling at it. Can't you all frikkin' read?! GeeZ.
*grumble*
Sorry, I just couldn't pass up that opportunity. ;)
Well, is it?Yes.
None says "I pity your ignorance" out of actual pity.
They use it as a polite way of telling you that they think you're an idiot.
-Skeld
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I pity your ignorance.
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I think you are ignorant on this topic.
Sadly, they'll get you the same response.
I was in another thread earlier today, where people were saying the Pathfinder version of a feat was total crap despite having not used it. Having used it to decent effect myself, I said (intending to point out the difference between theory and experience) that the view was "ignorant".
Took a while for things to calm back down. O_o
It really depends on whether or not they make their Sense Motive check. If you do the mocking jig (Perform: Dance) immediately after making such a statement, I think they get a +5 bonus to said check. I mean, they're ignorant after all, right? ;)
I've generally found that any time someone calls someone else "ignorant," this is generally followed by some canned speech about how the speaker is there to "educate" them, and this is then followed by a one-sided sermon rather than anything actually educational.
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Well, is it?
You don't know? No offence, but I pity your ignorance!
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Can you provide incontrovertible proof of said ignorance? If so, then the answer is, "Absolutely not." The truth is never (under absolutely any circumstances whatsoever) an insult or personal attack. If the ignorant person is too prideful or too stupid to admit they are wrong, that is THEIR problem, not yours, and there is no fault in pointing that out.
Just make sure you come correct (i.e., have your facts straight) if you plan to take the discussion in that direction...
So... don't be ignorant if you're going to accuse someone of ignorance.
Got it!
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Also, how'd this end up in website feedback?!I think at one point we thought this might turn into a serious discussion of etiquette, respect and perhaps tone, language and other larger things. I think we guessed wrong.
You did see that Studpuffin started the thread, right?
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Ignorance, I pity.
Yours or anyone else's.
Is that an attack?
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To say you pity someone their ignorance is a way of saying that you do not fear them intellectually.
But usually if someone feels the need to say that they are not afraid of something, they actually are.
So I would see it as less of a personal attack and more of an admission of weakness.
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Can you provide incontrovertible proof of said ignorance? If so, then the answer is, "Absolutely not." The truth is never (under absolutely any circumstances whatsoever) an insult or personal attack. If the ignorant person is too prideful or too stupid to admit they are wrong, that is THEIR problem, not yours, and there is no fault in pointing that out.
Just make sure you come correct (i.e., have your facts straight) if you plan to take the discussion in that direction...
This is utter nonsense.
If somebody is overweight and you choose to ridicule them for it, it is insulting even though it is true.
If you mock someone's disability, it is insulting.
It is entirely possible to state the truth and make a personal attack at the same time. Being courteous in one's personal interactions can go a long way.