Natural Attacks and Proficiency question


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I noticed that only the Druid class have in its entry that got proficiency with all natural attacks in any form he assume with wild shape. Wild shape use and follows the rules of spells such as Beast Form, Elemental Form and Plant Form.

Does this means that all other classes lack of natural attacks proficiency when using spells such a Beast Form or Polymorph or Psion Metamorphosis? Since those forms are just spells alterations and are not considered a Natural form like the Druid's Wild Shape is.


Karse wrote:
Does this means that all other classes lack of natural attacks proficiency when using spells such a Beast Form or Polymorph or Psion Metamorphosis? Since those forms are just spells alterations and are not considered a Natural form like the Druid's Wild Shape is.

Polymorph: In addition to these benefits, you gain any of the natural attacks of the base creature, including proficiency in those attacks.


Grick wrote:
Karse wrote:
Does this means that all other classes lack of natural attacks proficiency when using spells such a Beast Form or Polymorph or Psion Metamorphosis? Since those forms are just spells alterations and are not considered a Natural form like the Druid's Wild Shape is.

Polymorph: In addition to these benefits, you gain any of the natural attacks of the base creature, including proficiency in those attacks.

Umm right. It doesnt says anything in the spells descriptions. This you wrote was on page 211 of the Core Book.

Now the question will be if this natural attacks proficiency applies only to "polymorph" Spell (such as greater or the "Any" versions) Or does this extend to other spells such as Beast Shape, Plant Shape, Elemental Shape and Metamorphosis Power.

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Karse wrote:
Grick wrote:
Karse wrote:
Does this means that all other classes lack of natural attacks proficiency when using spells such a Beast Form or Polymorph or Psion Metamorphosis? Since those forms are just spells alterations and are not considered a Natural form like the Druid's Wild Shape is.

Polymorph: In addition to these benefits, you gain any of the natural attacks of the base creature, including proficiency in those attacks.

Umm right. It doesnt says anything in the spells descriptions. This you wrote was on page 211 of the Core Book.

Now the question will be if this natural attacks proficiency applies only to "polymorph" Spell (such as greater or the "Any" versions) Or does this extend to other spells such as Beast Shape, Plant Shape, Elemental Shape and Metamorphosis Power.

It will apply to anything under the polymorph school which all of those spells mentioned are members of.


Mathwei ap Niall wrote:
Karse wrote:
Grick wrote:
Karse wrote:
Does this means that all other classes lack of natural attacks proficiency when using spells such a Beast Form or Polymorph or Psion Metamorphosis? Since those forms are just spells alterations and are not considered a Natural form like the Druid's Wild Shape is.

Polymorph: In addition to these benefits, you gain any of the natural attacks of the base creature, including proficiency in those attacks.

Umm right. It doesnt says anything in the spells descriptions. This you wrote was on page 211 of the Core Book.

Now the question will be if this natural attacks proficiency applies only to "polymorph" Spell (such as greater or the "Any" versions) Or does this extend to other spells such as Beast Shape, Plant Shape, Elemental Shape and Metamorphosis Power.

It will apply to anything under the polymorph school which all of those spells mentioned are members of.

Ohh I see. Thanks a lot. That definitely makes it all cleared.

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