Shooting into a grapple


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I am playing Pathfinder and trying learn the rule changes from 3.5. Is there no more chance of hitting a friendly in a grapple anymore? Looking over the rules for grapple I see that...

1st) Grappling no longer makes you flat-footed but now gives you a -4 to Dex?

2nd)There is nothing said about shooting into grapples and hitting someone else by mistake?

Just want to check in with the pros as to make sure im up to speed the next time the wizard with the 16 Str starts getting grabby again. (Ha!) Thanks for the input! :D


Sorry, my computer lagged and posted this twice, whooops!


Have been wondering this myself.


Orange D20 of Death wrote:

I am playing Pathfinder and trying learn the rule changes from 3.5. Is there no more chance of hitting a friendly in a grapple anymore? Looking over the rules for grapple I see that...

1st) Grappling no longer makes you flat-footed but now gives you a -4 to Dex?

2nd)There is nothing said about shooting into grapples and hitting someone else by mistake?

Just want to check in with the pros as to make sure im up to speed the next time the wizard with the 16 Str starts getting grabby again. (Ha!) Thanks for the input! :D

While Im no pro I do know that one change from 3.5 is that a grappled creature no longer shares a square with its grappler and is adjacent instead.

From the srd:
If you successfully grapple a creature that is not adjacent to you, move that creature to an adjacent open space (if no space is available, your grapple fails).

So there is now no chance of accidentally hitting your ally (although the enemy may gain soft cover from your ranged attacks if lined up correctly).


1: This is true, not flat-footed.

2: You won't hit the other by accident (you are attacking a different square after all) but you will of course take a -4 to hit for shooting into a melee unless you have Precise Shot.
(This represents the fact that you are making very sure not to hit any other target than the one you are aiming for)

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