I have a bard enchanter that I'm making, and I'm curious as to whether it's worthwhile in the opinion of others to take Magical Knack since I'll be taking a one level dip into Sorcerer.
The only other magic trait I can think of that'd be of use would be Magical Lineage (Charm Person), so I'm curious.
Magical Lineage in Charm Person could be useful. If allowed to be used with Heighten, you could essentially get a constant +1 to the DC. It would also make an Echoing Charm Person easier to use (to greatly increase your chances of landing the spell).
The only benefit that most Enchantment spells gain from caster level is duration, which could just as easily be handled by a Metamagic Rod of Extend. Charm Person is 1 hour/level, anyways. I tend to see Magical Knack as better for multiclass blaster sorts, or multiclass necromancers (for things like Enervation).
Magical Lineage is a great trait for classes who have a bread-and-butter spell (like a Magus with Shocking Grasp), and Charm Person is about as close to a staple spell for an enchanter as you're going to get (at least until Dominate Monster comes into play).
There's a number of useful metamagic feats you could apply to Charm Person, so of the two I'd rank Magical Lineage > Magical Knack.
Fair point.
My dip into sorcerer is so I can use mind-affecting spells on Undead, Plants, Animals, Magical Beasts, and Monstrous Humanoids.
A super Charm Person could be...very useful with that.
However, my feats are...basically tied up until level 9. Which means I'll be getting 2 levels where I can use whatever metamagic feat I choose on it effectively. Hm. Perhaps Dominate Person would work better...
I should double check to see if I can even use Charm person on those guys. Hm. Yep, Dominate Person would work with everything listed but Undead.
I'm not sure if a single level dip into Sorcerer would allow you to use the bloodline arcana to augment your Bard spells, since as far as I know class abilities related to spellcasting only affect spells cast by the class granting the ability (so in this case, you'd only be able to use Charm Person on anything other than humanoids with your 1st level sorcerer spell slot, not with your Bard spells.)
They do. Same goes for Oracle Revelations, making a one level dip into Water Oracle not bad for a cold-based sorcerer.
That...is quite interesting. And suddenly entire new builds are opening up in my mind...
You learn something new every day :)
That...is quite interesting. And suddenly entire new builds are opening up in my mind...
You learn something new every day :)
I know, right? The Dirge Bard also lets you use mind-affecting spells on Undead, so the basis of this guy is to use that and Serpentine / Grove-Born to be able to Enchant...well just about everything. Plus, it's Serpent Skull, so it fits well.
A lot of the elemental Oracle mysteries have "rider" effects for spells of that elemental type. That's why I think a dip into Oracle would work well for blasters.
