Monks and Brass Knuckles


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I see a lot of people quickly jumping on the brass knuckles over amulet of natural armor band wagon and was wondering why the way i understand it yes you are profiencient with the knuckles but they are not monk weapons so you can't flurry with them meaning they are not as useful as the amulet.


Talonhawke wrote:
I see a lot of people quickly jumping on the brass knuckles over amulet of natural armor band wagon and was wondering why the way i understand it yes you are profiencient with the knuckles but they are not monk weapons so you can't flurry with them meaning they are not as useful as the amulet.

The PRD lists them as "monk" weapons. Monk weapons can be used in flurry of blows. Look at the chart in PRD.

CHART

Greg


The PRD isnt offical and i cant find any Errata for the book but the book only list them as profiecnt not as monk weapons.


Found the Errata Doesn't change the Chart so unless their are two printings they aren't it also doesnt even make sense form them to be why would a monk train in the use of an item that replicates something he can already do.


Talonhawke wrote:
The PRD isnt offical and i cant find any Errata for the book but the book only list them as profiecnt not as monk weapons.

According to my pdf it is a monk weapon...

I might have been changed from first to second printing without getting an errata, but that doesn't make it invalid.


Thats fine need to download new version guess now we i have to check which hand my monks are attack with lol


Maybe they are proficient with them so people can jump on the bandwagon of having them to be a cheesy way to get cheaper enchanted unarmed strikes? :P

I agree flavor wise it is kinda odd.

Greg


Talonhawke- They are definitely a monk weapon (I believe your looking at the adventurer's armoury, they were superceded there by brass knuckles in the APG).

They are better than unarmed strike because a- they can be made of special metals to bypass DR and b- they can be enchanted as weapons cheaper than wearing amulet of mighty fists.

They are definitely a monk weapon.


Now we just have more book keeping and then when monks are handcuffed or something they will be after enchanted steel toed boots for their kicks.


It has bothered me more that the temple sword is the only weapon the monk can flurry that offers a crit range better than "20".

Greg


Monks gain DR bypass i thought and the enchanting is fine but the whole lets get around the high cost by now actually haveing to declare what hand i punch with can be kinda weird now you have a monk throwing his full flurry with one hand i dont know just seems against spirit of monk to me.


But Chun-li can kick a hundred times with one leg? It's actually a trope for the multiple strikes with one hand thing.

What I dislike is that the Cestus (handwraps!!) are NOT considered monk weapons. Right.. brass knuckles sound so much more "monk" than handwraps.

Silver Crusade

Personally I'd just let the monk enchant his own damn body with the appropriate cost-amount of meditative incense and secret art research, as per another poster's recommendation.


Yay tattoos for the win on monk enchants

Sovereign Court

People are excited about brass knuckles because they represent the removal of an higher gold tax monks had to pay in order to enchant their attacks.

Even if they don't fit well flavour wise for everyone, they set a precedent for allowing hand wraps or other flavour weapons to be enchanted as weapons with similar mechanics.


Talonhawke wrote:
The PRD isnt offical and i cant find any Errata for the book but the book only list them as profiecnt not as monk weapons.

It doesn't get more official than the PRD.


The PRD says its not offical errata somewhere on the sight and as far as the tax it was based on not being disarmable being able to use any limb with that bonus it would be like your fighter having a necklace that makes any weapon +1 and flaming it should cost more than the base enchant.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Talonhawke please for the love of everything that is holy use some punctuation man because you see it's bloody hard to read all those stream of conciousness posts where did I leave my coffee oh yeah here it is back to the topic and it makes me feel like I was reading some Proust novel which I did back in the high school and it wasn't much fun oh my God please take those memories away now.


Sorry its been a long graveyard shift. Didn't mean to make it hard to read.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Talonhawke wrote:
Sorry its been a long graveyard shift. Didn't mean to make it hard to read.

No probs, I just had a back to school flashback and almost fell from the chair. :)


The PRD says this:

PRD wrote:


The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game is released under the Open Game License, meaning the core rules that drive the Pathfinder RPG system are available to anyone to use for free under the terms of the OGL. This compendium of rules, charts, and tables contains all of the open rules in the system, and is provided for the use of the community of gamers and publishers working with the system.

This compendium is NOT the official Pathfinder Roleplaying Game! Players interested in a user-friendly introduction to the Pathfinder system will want to purchase the complete Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook and the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary, which comes complete with more than 350 monsters to menace your player characters.

It's not the official game, because that's the book they sell. It is all the rules.

There are some things that are printed in the books that aren't carried over to the PRD, but when referencing the rules, the PRD has to be official, because it's the reference document publishers use when working with the system.

It's officially the rules, charts, and tables... but not the official "game" you use when you sit down to play.

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