Do rules about bonuses also apply to penalties

[richard develyn]

For example, with the Paladin's Divine Grace, the wording says "bonus, if any", which suggests that a penalty wouldn't be applied. However, HeroLab does apply it.

(Yesterday, the paladin got Feebleminded, BTW)

Which is it, and is there a general rule here?

Richard

[SunsetPsychosis]

In the case of Divine Grace, you don't take a penalty to saving throws if your Charisma drops below 10. Feeblemind does attack Wisdom, however, which comes with a lowering of Will saves. If HeroLabs applied Divine Grace as a penalty, then it's an error in their coding.

[Allia Thren]

From how I understand it, bonus only applies to positive modifiers, penalty only to negatives, and modifier means both.

[richard develyn]

Ok - thanks.

Richard