Help with Rogue Gear


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Grand Lodge

Howdy folks!

I need a bit of help with some gear purchases for a TWF rogue. He already has 2 +1 cold iron short swords, a budget of 31,000gp, and access to a cleric, wizard, and druid each with Craft Wondrous Item, Arms & Armor, Scribe Scroll, and Brew Potion.

Thanks for the help!


What Feat do you have and do you have UMD? And what are your Stats?

The Basic

Defense
Chain Shirt Armor Mithral +1 2K
Belt of DEX+ 2 and CON +2 10K
Head Band INT 4K
Ring of Protection +1 2K
Amulet Natural Armor +1 2K
Cloaks of Resistance +2 4K

Consumables (Is all about Defense/utility/ Range Attack)
Wand of Cure Light Wounds CL 1 750g
Wand of Shield CL1 750g
Wand of Obscuring Mist CL 1 750g
Wand of Protection from Evil CL 1 750g
Wand Invisibility CL 3 4.5K
Wand of Acid Arrow CL 3 4.5 K
This instead a bow or crossbow for +2.5K more than +1 of either you get to attack touch AC instead of real AC and less range. But I think the difference in attacking Touch vs Real AC is huge.

12 in Wands is a lot but the will most like last you your full career as PC.

Offence
+2 on both Weapons 6K each

And Pearl level 1 to fill out any left over gold.
I know that way more money than you have but most can be crafted.

And yes could get better AC getting higher one the Armor Magic on it but, I like the DEX +2:+ Reflex save, +Skills, +Missile Attack, +Touch AC, +CMD and + Initiative.
CON+HP Equal to level and Fort +1 save

+8 AC From Gear + 2 Touch AC + +7 Flatfooted
+3 Fort Save + 3 Reflexes Save +2 Will
+ Max Skill in Skill you do not have Escape Artist, or UMD

The Up Grades
Sliver Sheen .25K
Scroll of Remove Fear 25g *
Scroll of Suppress Charms and Compulsions 150g*

Ring of Feather Fall 1.2K
Slipper of Spider Climb 4.8K
Boots of Elven Kind 2.5 K
Glamered Armor 2.7K

* If you can cast it or UMD it you should own it.

Grand Lodge

Tom S 820 wrote:


What Feat do you have and do you have UMD? And what are your Stats?

The Basic

Defense
Chain Shirt Armor Mithral +1 2K
Belt of DEX+ 2 and CON +2 10K
Head Band INT 4K
Ring of Protection +1 2K
Amulet Natural Armor +1 2K
Cloaks of Resistance +2 4K

Consumables (Is all about Defense/utility/ Range Attack)
Wand of Cure Light Wounds CL 1 750g
Wand of Shield CL1 750g
Wand of Obscuring Mist CL 1 750g
Wand of Protection from Evil CL 1 750g
Wand Invisibility CL 3 4.5K
Wand of Acid Arrow CL 3 4.5 K
This instead a bow or crossbow for +2.5K more than +1 of either you get to attack touch AC instead of real AC and less range. But I think the difference in attacking Touch vs Real AC is huge.

12 in Wands is a lot but the will most like last you your full career as PC.

Offence
+2 on both Weapons 6K each

And Pearl level 1 to fill out any left over gold.
I know that way more money than you have but most can be crafted.

And yes could get better AC getting higher one the Armor Magic on it but, I like the DEX +2:+ Reflex save, +Skills, +Missile Attack, +Touch AC, +CMD and + Initiative.
CON+HP Equal to level and Fort +1 save

+8 AC From Gear + 2 Touch AC + +7 Flatfooted
+3 Fort Save + 3 Reflexes Save +2 Will
+ Max Skill in Skill you do not have Escape Artist, or UMD

The Up Grades
Sliver Sheen .25K
Scroll of Remove Fear 25g *
Scroll of Suppress Charms and Compulsions 150g*

Ring of Feather Fall 1.2K
Slipper of Spider Climb 4.8K
Boots of Elven Kind 2.5 K
Glamered Armor 2.7K

* If you can cast it or UMD it you should own it.

Umm... does that mean that you can sneak attack with the Wand of Acid Arrows?


Yes if the target is flatfooted and with in 30ft.

Which mean round one and/or suprise Round if you beat the bad guy on INT.

But the Sneak Attack only gose on the round that you attack with it. the following rounds same as per spell.

Have not seen any Arcane Trickster?

The Exchange

Source: Arms & Equipment Guide
Bodysuit, Black: This very tight-fitting garment is made of black silk. It is used by rogues and infiltrators when sneaking around at night. Wearing the suit grants a +2 circumstance bonus on Hide checks in conditions dark enough to grant one-half concealment or better. However, the bodysuit provides no benefit if you wear other clothing or armor, other than belts, pouches, or bandoleers, on top of it.
Cost: 30 gp Weight: 1 lb

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Source: Second Darkness - Shadow in the Sky
The boots are of fine quality drow manufacture, and while not magical, they provide a +2 circumstance bonus on Move Silently checks. The boots are worth 400 gp.


Snobi, those two items listed are 3.5 gear. Hide and Move Silently have been folded into Stealth. I'd say make sure you have things like Eyes of the Eagle (+5 to Perception, the most useful skill in the game) and the Shadowed enchantment on your armor (+5 to Stealth, one of the most broken skills in the game). Better armor and weapons are well and good, but you're still a rogue and will be required to do rogueish things, which generally includes spotting traps and sneaking around.


Other good and cheap items for a rogue :

- Hat of Disguise
- Boots and Cloak of Elvenkind
- Circlet of Persuasion (boosts social skills and UMD)


Harek Ivarson wrote:


Umm... does that mean that you can sneak attack with the Wand of Acid Arrows?

Yes, you certainly can! Same rules as ranged sneak with a missile weapon.

Your target gets no save, no SR, and takes damage the next round, which is no fun for casters, in particular.

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