
Grand Magus |

Come on America, we can dooo eeet to!
1. Qatar
2. Luxemburg
3. Norway
4. Singapore
5. Brunei
6. America
7. Hong Kong
8. Switzerland
9. Netherlands
10. Australia.
Do we really need to be in first place here? I think being tucked in with the top group may be ok. Any thoughts?
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J.S. |

The quickest and easiest way is to start a war.
I'm pretty sure that the quickest way would be to cull some portion of the population, thus narrowing the 'per capita' aspect. I mean, seriously, there are suburbs of Detroit with more people than Luxembourg, and rest stops in Nevada with more people than Qatar.
And, sure, you can do that by starting a war, but that's outsourcing your production off-shore. You might as well set up the death camps locally instead, bringing American ingenuity, hard work, and that can kill spirit to bear.
Alternately, some sort of infectious disease might work, if it could target the unemployed somehow.

Grand Magus |

Grand Magus wrote:
The quickest and easiest way is to start a war.
I'm pretty sure that the quickest way would be to cull some portion of the population, thus narrowing the 'per capita' aspect. I mean, seriously, there are suburbs of Detroit with more people than Luxembourg, and rest stops in Nevada with more people than Qatar.
And, sure, you can do that by starting a war, but that's outsourcing your production off-shore. You might as well set up the death camps locally instead, bringing American ingenuity, hard work, and that can kill spirit to bear.
Alternately, some sort of infectious disease might work, if it could target the unemployed somehow.
I don't think 'per capita' means what you think it means, but I still think I understand your point.
My guess at what you are saying is America is much larger and much more diverse than Qatar; it takes a lot more effort & organization on America's part to post high GDP numbers, and we can't have people sitting on the side-lines with their hands out. (Am I close?)
My personal response to my admittedly own response is "maybe".
Being larger and more diverse gives many more opportunities to any given economic-agent. So, if each self-interested economic-agent both here in America and over there in Qatar were equal in abilities, I think the American GDP per capital would have to be much greater. Because there are more opportunities. Since, it's not it makes me suspect there is deeper structural/idiosyncratic "stuff" going on.
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Also, we don't want to target the Unemployed, although that would be fun, because by definition these are people who want to work, but cannot find work.
Let's target those who do not even want to work instead.
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CLOSE THIS AND GO WATCH TV BEFORE YOU GO BLIND!!!!
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Three important labor market indicators are the
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labor force - includes all people who are either employed or actively seeking employment.
unemployment rate = ( # of unemployed ) / ( labor force )
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working-age population is all people 16 years of age or older who are not living in institutions.
labor-force participation rate = ( labor force ) / ( working-age population )
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employment-to-population ratio = ( # of employed ) / ( working-age population )
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Samnell |

We're number twelve on a more important measure.
This metric is also stunningly pathetic.
But hey, we beat Turkmenistan. Senegal better watch out or we'll have them dusted in a few years too.

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We're number twelve on a more important measure.
This metric is also stunningly pathetic.
But hey, we beat Turkmenistan. Senegal better watch out or we'll have them dusted in a few years too.
Ignoring the second one, since I happen to agree it is silly and sad.
What does it really mean? Not to rattle your chain or anything, it is just a bunch of numbers. True our metrics are sliding, bunch America is not that homogeneous. maybe it should be, maybe that's what the numbers reveal?

Samnell |

What does it really mean?
We live in a banana republic.
Not to rattle your chain or anything, it is just a bunch of numbers. True our metrics are sliding, bunch America is not that homogeneous. maybe it should be, maybe that's what the numbers reveal?
Exactly the situation one would expect of a banana republic: pockets of enormous luxury resting on the backs of everyone else. It's not a healthy way to structure a society (quite the opposite, it's deliberately pathological) and will inevitably require increasingly draconian levels of brute force to maintain.

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Crimson Jester wrote:
What does it really mean?We live in a banana republic.
Quote:Not to rattle your chain or anything, it is just a bunch of numbers. True our metrics are sliding, bunch America is not that homogeneous. maybe it should be, maybe that's what the numbers reveal?Exactly the situation one would expect of a banana republic: pockets of enormous luxury resting on the backs of everyone else. It's not a healthy way to structure a society (quite the opposite, it's deliberately pathological) and will inevitably require increasingly draconian levels of brute force to maintain.
Banana republic is a pejorative term that refers to a politically unstable country dependent upon limited primary productions (e.g. bananas), and ruled by a small, self-elected, wealthy, corrupt politico-economic plutocracy or oligarchy
I am sorry maybe I am blind, I just don't see us being at this extreme. Yes there are things I do not like. However the level of corruption, decadence and the use of force to maintain it I just do not see on a day to day basis.

Samnell |

I am sorry maybe I am blind, I just don't see us being at this extreme. Yes there are things I do not like. However the level of corruption, decadence and the use of force to maintain it I just do not see on a day to day basis.
The stats are pretty much there. (Seriously, look at our income inequality peers. Russia is doing better than we are by a little bit.) Give us time. A truck this big takes a while to come to a complete stop.

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Crimson Jester wrote:The stats are pretty much there. (Seriously, look at our income inequality peers. Russia is doing better than we are by a little bit.) Give us time. A truck this big takes a while to come to a complete stop.
I am sorry maybe I am blind, I just don't see us being at this extreme. Yes there are things I do not like. However the level of corruption, decadence and the use of force to maintain it I just do not see on a day to day basis.
I have. There are times I have looked and said yep we are a car wreck (to use you analogy) away from a melt down. Yet I still say it is much better off than the picture you seem to paint.

Grand Magus |

Samnell wrote:I have. There are times I have looked and said yep we are a car wreck (to use you analogy) away from a melt down. Yet I still say it is much better off than the picture you seem to paint.Crimson Jester wrote:The stats are pretty much there. (Seriously, look at our income inequality peers. Russia is doing better than we are by a little bit.) Give us time. A truck this big takes a while to come to a complete stop.
I am sorry maybe I am blind, I just don't see us being at this extreme. Yes there are things I do not like. However the level of corruption, decadence and the use of force to maintain it I just do not see on a day to day basis.
I am putting >spikes on my motorcycle<.

Grand Magus |

We're number twelve on a more important measure.
This metric is also stunningly pathetic.
But hey, we beat Turkmenistan. Senegal better watch out or we'll have them dusted in a few years too.
So what does this mean? These days, is America trending up or trending down?