Can we get an official ruling on Abundant Step


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"Abundant Step

At 12th level or higher, a monk can slip magically between spaces, as if using the spell dimension door. Using this ability is a move action that consumes 2 points from his ki pool. His caster level for this effect is equal to his monk level. He cannot take other creatures with him when he uses this ability."

Now Dimension door is a standard action that functionally ends your turn.

However if the intent is to end your turn, why make it a move action rather than a standard action? And considering the nerf of not being able to bring others it seems like the intent was to allow the monk limited teleportation as a move action, meaning the monk would have a standard actions after.

And before anyone says it, yes I am aware James Jacobs weighed in on this. He also weighed in on Vital Strike and spring attack as well light armor proficiency for animals...James is wonderful and great and the go to person on all things Golarion, but he isn't a Dev.

So could one of the Devs weigh in on this and give us a once and for all ruling, because I can't find one other than James Jacobs comment, and I can't for the life of me think of why you would change it to a move action from a standard action if you were not going to allow someone to use the standard action after the move action.

Thanks in advance.

Liberty's Edge

He could use the standard action before using abundant step.

It make it a bit weaker that allowing him to chose between acting before or after, but it is still a decent power.
It is more defensive oriented used this way, while allowing him to chose to act after the DDoor effect make it more offensively oriented.

Liberty's Edge

Diego Rossi wrote:

He could use the standard action before using abundant step.

It make it a bit weaker that allowing him to chose between acting before or after, but it is still a decent power.
It is more defensive oriented used this way, while allowing him to chose to act after the DDoor effect make it more offensively oriented.

Yes, but that seem an awfully lame addition when you consider they removed the ability to bring others.

3.5 had feats that allowed you to attack after, because it was a standard action before. So this would seem to be a major nerf from previous versions unless the intent was to allow you to make a single attack as a standard action after.

Now if they decided no because it is to powerful combined with Quivering Palm, ok. But considering you have to be at least 16th level to do that (when full casters have 8th level spells and are only 1 away from 9th level spells...), it doesn't seem particularly game breaking.

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