Quick Question about Invisibility


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I searched the archives a bit, and I couldn't find an answer, but perhaps only because it's so obvious. Just wanted some clarification. If you're invisible and you make an attack, does the invisibility go away after the attack? For example, I want to Vanish with my rogue, move to attack a creature, and attack. Does the creature lose it's Dex bonus when I attack and thus allow me sneak attack damage, or does the effect end when I start the attack? I'd imagine it would end AFTER the attack, because the condition invisibility seems kind of silly seeing as most invisible effects end as soon as you attack. I know there are exceptions, but still...


SoldierSolidus wrote:
I searched the archives a bit, and I couldn't find an answer, but perhaps only because it's so obvious. Just wanted some clarification. If you're invisible and you make an attack, does the invisibility go away after the attack? For example, I want to Vanish with my rogue, move to attack a creature, and attack. Does the creature lose it's Dex bonus when I attack and thus allow me sneak attack damage, or does the effect end when I start the attack? I'd imagine it would end AFTER the attack, because the condition invisibility seems kind of silly seeing as most invisible effects end as soon as you attack. I know there are exceptions, but still...

It is generally accepted that you are considered invisible for the first attack (i.e. if you have multiple attacks because of a high BAB only the first one is considered a sneak attack.

Exactly when is still up for debate. This is important if the target readies an action or has some other method to interrupt when you become visible.


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SoldierSolidus wrote:
I searched the archives a bit, and I couldn't find an answer, but perhaps only because it's so obvious. Just wanted some clarification. If you're invisible and you make an attack, does the invisibility go away after the attack? For example, I want to Vanish with my rogue, move to attack a creature, and attack. Does the creature lose it's Dex bonus when I attack and thus allow me sneak attack damage, or does the effect end when I start the attack? I'd imagine it would end AFTER the attack, because the condition invisibility seems kind of silly seeing as most invisible effects end as soon as you attack. I know there are exceptions, but still...

The invisibility ends after the attack. Your foe is (usually) flat-footed and you get your sneak attack against it.

Note that if you take a full attack, only your first attack gains these benefits as you become visible before you can make your next one.


What the others said.


Thanks for the quick responses, everyone, that's what I thought. Now if I can just figure out how to remove this thread...

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