Armor Training and Shields

[Darth_Slanderous]

i was wondering...does a fighter's armor training ability affect armor check penalties (and max dex bonus) incurred by shields, namely tower shields?

thanks for your input :)

[Ogwar]

"Core Rulebook" wrote:

Armor Training (Ex): Starting at 3rd level, a fighter learns to be more maneuverable while wearing armor.

Whenever he is wearing armor, he reduces the armor
check penalty by 1 (to a minimum of 0) and increases the
maximum Dexterity bonus allowed by his armor by 1. Every
four levels thereafter (7th, 11th, and 15th), these bonuses
increase by +1 each time, to a maximum –4 reduction of the
armor check penalty and a +4 increase of the maximum
Dexterity bonus allowed.

As written I would say there is no mention of shields. "Whenever he is wearing armor" and having a shield on your arm is not wearing armor.

That being said, it is your DM's choice. If I were running your game, I would probably allow it since sword and board fighters are training to use their armor and shields in ways that us common folk would never understand. I believe a "shield master" level 12 fighter is not as restricted with his shield as a first level fighter learning to spar. So I would allow it.

But as written I would say no. [How about THAT for a wishy-washy answer]

[Fallen_Mage]

Darth_Slanderous wrote:

i was wondering...does a fighter's armor training ability affect armor check penalties (and max dex bonus) incurred by shields, namely tower shields?

thanks for your input :)

I would say yes, because of:

PRD wrote:

Armor Mastery (Ex): At 19th level, a fighter gains DR 5/— whenever he is wearing armor or using a shield

How would it be counted as "mastered" if it's not trained?

Just my two coppers

[Darth_Slanderous]

all right, just my reasoning. thanks :)