Wilhem
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Can I combine Resilient Sphere and Cloudkill into a prison of poisonous gas?
Resilient Sphere says "the sphere functions as a wall of force."
Wall of Force has this paragraph:
"Breath weapons and spells cannot pass through a wall of force in either direction, although dimension door, teleport, and similar effects can bypass the barrier. It blocks ethereal creatures as well as material ones (though ethereal creatures can usually circumvent the wall by going around it, through material floors and ceilings). Gaze attacks can operate through a wall of force."
My GM says he think to cast Cloudkill inside the sphere, the spell has to pass through the sphere first. I believe since it's a conjuration spell, you can literally just make the gas appear inside the sphere. Thoughts and opinions?
Along the same thoughts, can you summon creatures/swarms inside the sphere as well?
Purple Dragon Knight
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no... no spell can pass through the sphere; one could teleport in and cast cloudkill though, then teleport out and leave the victim in there to die; although you better have a necklace of adaptation or "no need to breathe" ioun stone to pull off that trick, as you'll be subject to the cloudkill for the round you're in the sphere with the victim...
| HansiIsMyGod |
Purple Dragon Knight is right but what would happen if you cast cloudkill first and in the following round try to trap someone who is still in the area of a cloudkill?
Would this split the spell in two areas ? One that normally moves away from caster and the other one that is trapped in sphere with the creature ?
| Jeraa |
Purple Dragon Knight is right but what would happen if you cast cloudkill first and in the following round try to trap someone who is still in the area of a cloudkill?
Would this split the spell in two areas ? One that normally moves away from caster and the other one that is trapped in sphere with the creature ?
If the center (its point of origin)of the cloudkill was the part of the spell trapped in the sphere then the cloudkill spell fills the sphere, and anything outside the sphere dissipates.
If the center of the cloudkill is outside of the sphere, whoever is in the sphere would be unaffected (the part of the cloudkill spell in the sphere dissipates as it is cut off from the origin).
The magic of cloudkill is coming from a specific point, and the sphere would block the gases from passing in either direction. Or that is at least how I would rule it.
| Marius Castille |
You wouldn't be able to target the interior of a resilient sphere. It is outside of the line of effect.
Line of Effect: A line of effect is a straight, unblocked path that indicates what a spell can affect. A line of effect is canceled by a solid barrier. It's like line of sight for ranged weapons, except that it's not blocked by fog, darkness, and other factors that limit normal sight.
You must have a clear line of effect to any target that you cast a spell on or to any space in which you wish to create an effect. You must have a clear line of effect to the point of origin of any spell you cast.
A burst, cone, cylinder, or emanation spell affects only an area, creature, or object to which it has line of effect from its origin (a spherical burst's center point, a cone-shaped burst's starting point, a cylinder's circle, or an emanation's point of origin).
An otherwise solid barrier with a hole of at least 1 square foot through it does not block a spell's line of effect. Such an opening means that the 5-foot length of wall containing the hole is no longer considered a barrier for purposes of a spell's line of effect.
| Quatar |
Casting cloudkill + quickened resilient sphere might do the trick maybe.
It says you can breathe normally inside the sphere, so that might indicate it doesn't really block gas, so it might not trap the cloudkill at all.
It would block you casting it inside, obviously, but if you cast the cloudkill first, it might just move out normally.
| Jeraa |
Casting cloudkill + quickened resilient sphere might do the trick maybe.
It says you can breathe normally inside the sphere, so that might indicate it doesn't really block gas, so it might not trap the cloudkill at all.
It would block you casting it inside, obviously, but if you cast the cloudkill first, it might just move out normally.
Resilient Sphere works like wall of force - no spell can cross its boundries in either direction. (With the exception of teleportation effects, but that is not passing through the wall as much as disappearing from one location and instantly appearing in another.)
Wilhem
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Casting cloudkill + quickened resilient sphere might do the trick maybe.
It says you can breathe normally inside the sphere, so that might indicate it doesn't really block gas, so it might not trap the cloudkill at all.
It would block you casting it inside, obviously, but if you cast the cloudkill first, it might just move out normally.
This interpretation is pretty creative, but I am not sure being allowed to breath translates to the sphere doesn't block gas. It could just mean that you can breath the air that's trapped inside with you. Thanks for that thought though!
So aside from casting Cloudkill BEFORE the sphere, are there other creative ways to trap targets in the poison gas? Perhaps spiked pit then cloudkill...