I'm trying to figure out a Monk's flurry bonuses and I'm not sure if I understand the rules correctly. Can someone help with the bonus and explain to me what I'm doing?
I have an 11th Pathfinder Monk, 5th 3.5 Psychic Warrior (BAB +3).
I have a Monk's Belt, which means that I look on the chart 5 levels higher for AC and unarmed strike damage...
I have allowed a feat (actually chain of two feats) that allows this character to flurry with a glaive.
The glaive is +3 enhanced.
The character is Strength 20. Wisdom is 26 if that matters but I don't think it does.
EDIT: The character has a trait (from Unearthed Arcana) called Reckless which gives him a -1 to attacks for a trade of +1 to damage.
I want to figure the unarmed flurry first, then the glaive should just be an additional +3 to hit (and use it's own damage).
Thanks!!! I think I understand this, but then the extra attack in the Flurry going from monk 10 to 11 just through me off...
I have the regular glaive attacks at +18/+13/+8. I think that is correct, I have the flurry attacks too high I believe...
Sean
I'm trying to figure out a Monk's flurry bonuses and I'm not sure if I understand the rules correctly. Can someone help with the bonus and explain to me what I'm doing?
I have an 11th Pathfinder Monk, 5th 3.5 Psychic Warrior (BAB +3).
I have a Monk's Belt, which means that I look on the chart 5 levels higher for AC and unarmed strike damage...
I have allowed a feat (actually chain of two feats) that allows this character to flurry with a glaive.
The glaive is +3 enhanced.
The character is Strength 20. Wisdom is 26 if that matters but I don't think it does.
I want to figure the unarmed flurry first, then the glaive should just be an additional +3 to hit (and use it's own damage).
Thanks!!! I think I understand this, but then the extra attack in the Flurry going from monk 10 to 11 just through me off...
I have the regular glaive attacks at +18/+13/+8. I think that is correct, I have the flurry attacks too high I believe...
Sean
A monk level 11 has the following attacks on a flurry:
+9/+9/+4/+4/–1Adding in Psychic warrior (+3) and str (+5) it becomes:
+17/+17/+12/+12/+7
The Glaive is just another +3 to those scores.
I don't know the feats in question, but it seems like a rather potent choice. You attack score is definately high enough for you to take power attack and bump your damage significantly.
I have the regular glaive attacks at +18/+13/+8.
With a BAB +11/+6/+1, str +5, and a weapon +3 it becomes:
+19/+14/+9
I have the regular glaive attacks at +18/+13/+8.
With a BAB +11/+6/+1, str +5, and a weapon +3 it becomes:
+19/+14/+9
Ahh... I missed something in the original post. This character also has a character trait called Reckless (I think from the Unearthe Arcana) which is -1 on all attacks for a trade of +1 damage to all attacks.
That's why I had a +18...
A monk level 11 has the following attacks on a flurry:
+9/+9/+4/+4/–1Adding in Psychic warrior (+3) and str (+5) it becomes:
+17/+17/+12/+12/+7The Glaive is just another +3 to those scores.
I don't know the feats in question, but it seems like a rather potent choice. You attack score is definately high enough for you to take power attack and bump your damage significantly.
Ok, this is correct, and if I add the Reckless trait, the attacks are +16/+16/+11/+11/+6. So, if I add +3 for the glaive enhancement, the attacks become +19/+19/+14/+14/+9. Correct?
The regular glaive attacks (with the Reckless) are +18/+13/+8.
My question is this, why is it a higher attack bonus with flurry? Shouldn't it be lower? Do you really add in the BAB from the Psychic Warrior into the mix?
If you do add the +3 from the PsyWar, do you move up the Monk chart and use the flurry scores for a monk who is higher level? In this case, the flurry of a 15th level monk. This doesn't seem correct either...
And yes, the Power Attack does make for an effective character, but at this level, he needs it compared to some of the other fighter classes.
Sean
A monk level 11 has the following attacks on a flurry:
+9/+9/+4/+4/–1Adding in Psychic warrior (+3) and str (+5) it becomes:
+17/+17/+12/+12/+7The Glaive is just another +3 to those scores.
I don't know the feats in question, but it seems like a rather potent choice. You attack score is definately high enough for you to take power attack and bump your damage significantly.
Ok, this is correct, and if I add the Reckless trait, the attacks are +16/+16/+11/+11/+6. So, if I add +3 for the glaive enhancement, the attacks become +19/+19/+14/+14/+9. Correct?
The regular attacks with the Reckless are +18/+13/+8.
My question is this, why is it a higher attack bonus with flurry? Shouldn't it be lower? Do you really add in the BAB from the Psychic Warrior into the mix?
If you do add the +3 from the PsyWar, do you move up the Monk chart and use the flurry scores for a monk who is higher level? In this case, the flurry of a 15th level monk. This doesn't seem correct either...
And yes, the Power Attack does make for an effective character, but at this level, he needs it compared to some of the other fighter classes.
Sean
It is just the flurry of 11th lvl monk, which equals his level-2(twf penalty), thus it is as stated: +9/+9/+4/+4/-1.
On top of that you get +3 from PsyWar, +5 from str and -1 from reckless.
The final score of +19/... is correct.
Breaking it down:
BAB = 11 (8 monk + 3 PsyWar)
Flurry BAB = 14 (11 monk + 3 PsyWar)
Number of flurry attacks = 5 (3 from BAB + two additional as if TWF).
Primary flurry attack bonus = flurry BAB + str + enhancement bonus - twf penalty (2) - reckless (1)
My question is this, why is it a higher attack bonus with flurry? Shouldn't it be lower?
Starting with level 9 a monk's highest flurry attack bonus (using his level as BAB) becomes higher than his normal attack bonus (using the 3/4 BAB progression). So that's working as intended.
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My question is this, why is it a higher attack bonus with flurry? Shouldn't it be lower?Starting with level 9 a monk's highest flurry attack bonus (using his level as BAB) becomes higher than his normal attack bonus (using the 3/4 BAB progression). So that's working as intended.
Lol. Look at pf's monk. That's 3.5 you're talking about.
During flurry BAB is equal to level. Then you 2 weapon fight with the -2 penaltys.
Flurry just became "free 2 weapon fighting feat-tree at full BAB" which is also why you can't stack twf and flurry any more.
Also you can never get str+1/2 using a 2handed weapon in a flurry. It sucks, but you can only get str mod. But I think you can get the 2 handed damage benefit from power attack
My question is this, why is it a higher attack bonus with flurry? Shouldn't it be lower?Starting with level 9 a monk's highest flurry attack bonus (using his level as BAB) becomes higher than his normal attack bonus (using the 3/4 BAB progression). So that's working as intended.Lol. Look at pf's monk. That's 3.5 you're talking about.
During flurry BAB is equal to level. Then you 2 weapon fight with the -2 penaltys.
Flurry just became "free 2 weapon fighting feat-tree at full BAB" which is also why you can't stack twf and flurry any more.
Also you can never get str+1/2 using a 2handed weapon in a flurry. It sucks, but you can only get str mod. But I think you can get the 2 handed damage benefit from power attack
Ok, so what would a 1st level PF Monk plus a 15th Level PF Fighter FoB be assuming a 10 Str?
Ok, so what would a 1st level PF Monk plus a 15th Level PF Fighter FoB be assuming a 10 Str?
At this point you can just add onto the monk table, since his BAB gives more attack.
A monk 1/fighter 15 gets this flurry:
14/14/9/4/-1
Breakdown:
Monk flurry BaB: +1
Fighter BAB: +15
BAB while flurrying: +16, which gives 4 attacks.
Add in one extra attack at full BAB due to monk 1, but make all attacks at -2.