| Stasiscell |
Does a ability /feat (im looking at you varisian tattoo) allow the caster to cast a spell that the ability effects a number of times per day as if he was at the next level (an example is a magus with a varisian tattoo of evocation not including bonus spells from int would he be able to cast the same ammount of evocation spells as a 2nd lvl magus 1 spell, 1 evocation spell as opposed to only 1 spell at 1st level.
i saw a pregen character (seoni) from rise of the runelords who had 5 1st lvl spells per day ( 3+1 bonus from high charisma is standard) i was scratch my brain as to where the 5th came from and i thought that it would make sense if her caster lvl increase enabled her to cast 1st lvl spells as if she was a 2nd level sorcerer thus getting the extra spell per day.
also if this is true does increases to caster level stack.
could i theoretically be able to play a pyromaniac gnome sorcerer with a varisian evoc tattoo and at 4th level be able to cast 6 2nd level spells (3 normally, 1 cha bonus , 1 fire descriptor , 1 evocation) basically the warhammer bright wizard of pathfinder albeit much shorter .
if so thats nasty 7 burning hands , 6 scorching rays = a blasting sorc if i ever saw one .
| Abraham spalding |
All it does is increase your effective caster level for spell effects based off of caster level. It doesn't actually raise your level in a class for the purposes of spells per day.
So if you have varisian tattoo(evocation) and you are a level 2 sorcerer that casts magic missile you'll get 3 missiles and get +3 instead of +2 to overcome spell resistance -- but you won't get more spells per day or known.
| Stasiscell |
thanks for the feedback you guys are awesome.
i have a question that still stands for caster level increases though.
do the caster level increases stack generally being nontyped bonuses to said caster level.
lets say that i was playing in the carrion crown adventure path and i had the inspired by greatness trait (giving me a +1 caster level to a spell of choice "for craps and giggles lets say Flare " )
if i was a elf with the lightbringer alternative racial feature ( +1 to light spells) would i have a effective caster level of 3 for my chosen spell.
| wraithstrike |
thanks for the feedback you guys are awesome.
i have a question that still stands for caster level increases though.
do the caster level increases stack generally being nontyped bonuses to said caster level.
lets say that i was playing in the carrion crown adventure path and i had the inspired by greatness trait (giving me a +1 caster level to a spell of choice "for craps and giggles lets say Flare " )
if i was a elf with the lightbringer alternative racial feature ( +1 to light spells) would i have a effective caster level of 3 for my chosen spell.
They stack as long as they are untyped.
The black raven
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Stasiscell wrote:They stack as long as they are untyped.thanks for the feedback you guys are awesome.
i have a question that still stands for caster level increases though.
do the caster level increases stack generally being nontyped bonuses to said caster level.
lets say that i was playing in the carrion crown adventure path and i had the inspired by greatness trait (giving me a +1 caster level to a spell of choice "for craps and giggles lets say Flare " )
if i was a elf with the lightbringer alternative racial feature ( +1 to light spells) would i have a effective caster level of 3 for my chosen spell.
untyped AND not coming both from traits.
Tylan
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Choose one spell you can cast. From now on, you always cast this spell at +1 caster level.
Elves with this racial trait are immune to light-based blindness and dazzle effects, and are treated as one level higher when determining the effects of any light-based spell or effect they cast...
One is an unnamed bonus, and one is not a bonus but a direct increase. They're also from different sources. So, yes, they both stack.
untyped AND not coming both from traits.
Actually, I disagree on this one. From what I've read, bonuses stack so long as they are 1)not from the same source, and 2)are not typed or are of different types.
The "not coming from both traits" rule you mention is from the PF SRD.
Many traits grant a new type of bonus: a 'trait' bonus. Trait bonuses do not stack—they're intended to give you a slight edge over the non-PCs of the world, not a secret backdoor way to focus all your traits on one type of bonus to gain an unseemly advantage over the rules. It's certainly possible, for example, that somewhere down the line, a “Courageous” trait might be on the list of dwarf race traits, but just because this trait's on the dwarf race traits list and the basic combat traits list doesn't mean you're any more brave if you choose both than if you choose only one.
Nearly every bonus from traits is listed as a "trait bonus", so the general rule of thumb is that traits don't stack. This is consistent with the general Pathfinder rule that most named bonuses (competence, morale, insight) do not stack with themselves. The Courageous example, which is a +2 "trait" bonus, emphasizes the point. So, if you happen to find two *unrelated* traits, one of which doesn't add a "trait" bonus, you can stack a little bit.
Here's one:
Mathematical Prodigy (magic category)
You gain a +1 bonus on Knowledge (arcana) and Knowledge (engineering) checks, and one of these skills (your choice) is always a class skill for you.
Fanatic (racial category, human)
You gain a +1 trait bonus to Knowledge (arcana) and Knowledge (history) checks. One of these skills (your choice) is always a class skill for you.
== (+1 unnamed bonus) plus (+1 trait bonus)
These follow the proper rules:
1. Different trait categories.
2. Different traits (with different flavor text reasoning).
3. Different bonus types.
That's my opinion on the matter. There's room for a different interpretation, but there's no official ruling I've yet seen released in errata or FAQs to discount such the trait combination. And hey, if you reeeeally want to burn your backstory to get a +1 Knowledge (arcana) check, I wouldn't argue such a trifle.