| Bobson |
I'm trying to build a grappling barbarian, and I've come up with a question that's stumped me. The Animal Fury rage power says
A barbarian can make a bite attack as part of the action to maintain or break free from a grapple. This attack is resolved before the grapple check is made. If the bite attack hits, any grapple checks made by the barbarian against the target this round are at a +2 bonus.
Normally, if you succeed in your grapple check to maintain a pin, you can then choose to do damage (with an unarmed strike, natural attack, or 1-handed weapon).
Does Animal Fury's bite attack happen in addition to the normal grapple-damage, or instead of it?
When you combine it with Greater Grapple, does the barbarian end up with two bites and two unarmed/natural/1-handed attacks per round? Or does taking the bite replace any action you would normally take after succeeding on maintaining the grapple?
| Mojorat |
it works like this
Round 1, Brogar the bear man grapples the Puny Elf.
The elf struggles feebly his girlish screams falling ond eaf ears as he tries to break free
Round 2, Rognar has to Maintain, he chooses to do so. He gets the Bite attack. If it hits it improves his Maintain roll..
He then does his natural attack damage, or pin or whatever.
If Rognar had Greater Grapple the Bite thingie wouldnt work again in round 2, becaus he has already done a 'maintain'
He could however just make a Bite attack or any other suitable attack you can do while grappling.
hope that helps.
| Quandary |
AFAIK, if you have Grt Grapple, you can make two `Maintain`Grapple checks per round, you just only need to succeed on one to continue the grapple, but you could Move + Pin, or Pin + Damage, etc, all with free Bite attacks, if you want to. Or do something completely different with your Standard Action if the Move Action Maintain succeeded, e.g. Vital Strike or Cleave.
But otherwise I see it working as Mojorat says... Think of it as similar to if you attack a target, they get an AoO against you but take an attack which itself provokes, so you in turn get an AoO against them before your main attack takes place... there aren`t any AoOs here, and the target doesn`t do anything special, but from your end that`s how you get two attacks from starting one action (grapple maintain/reverse).