The Royal Wedding -- William and Kate Kiss on the Balcony -- and then fighter planes fly over head.


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I guess we are seeing two things:
(1) The new, youthful Monarch,
(2) a demonstration of their Military Power.

Analysis: England thinks they are sexy (for the moment), and if you disagree they'll bomb your house from miles away.


I see your pointless, bourgeois display of wealth and raise you pie.

Sovereign Court

*sigh* really?

Dark Archive

As a long-standing chairborne pilot (flight sims), I was moved by the pass of the Lancaster, Spitfire and Hurricane trio. It made me mutter "hell yeah!".
What great sound from those engines!

Couldn't really care much for the rest of the video, though.

Silver Crusade

England is not Britain.

As a Brit I am sick to death of the constant references to a war that ended over 65 years ago. I groaned inwardly when I heard about the flypast. It makes our country look backward.

Why did they not fly contemporary planes over Buckingham Palace? That's what any other country would do. But no we equate nationalism with a war that very few people in our country can actually remember first hand.

WWII dominates our national identity like a big, ugly colossus. I could turn on my TV right now and I guarantee by flicking through a few channels I would find a WWII documentary. Yup just checked, "The World at War" on the military channel. Sigh.

It even gets into our teaching at schools. My country has a fascinating history, the Roman and Norman conquests, the wars of the roses, the reformation, the civil war, the regency period, Victorian England but we only seem to concentrate on the Tudor period and Hitler. It's pathetic.

Britain is like Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, leeching off past glories like a punch drunk, washed up boxer. It's embarrassing.


I am fascinated by the Bishops Wars.


At least it was a good documentary this time. (Provided it's the, by now rather old, one and not some newfangled thing by the same name.)


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FallofCamelot wrote:

England is not Britain.

As a Brit I am sick to death of the constant references to a war that ended over 65 years ago. I groaned inwardly when I heard about the flypast. It makes our country look backward.

Why did they not fly contemporary planes over Buckingham Palace? That's what any other country would do. But no we equate nationalism with a war that very few people in our country can actually remember first hand.

WWII dominates our national identity like a big, ugly colossus. I could turn on my TV right now and I guarantee by flicking through a few channels I would find a WWII documentary. Yup just checked, "The World at War" on the military channel. Sigh.

It even gets into our teaching at schools. My country has a fascinating history, the Roman and Norman conquests, the wars of the roses, the reformation, the civil war, the regency period, Victorian England but we only seem to concentrate on the Tudor period and Hitler. It's pathetic.

Britain is like Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, leeching off past glories like a punch drunk, washed up boxer. It's embarrassing.

They actually did fly a group of 4 jets over the palace as well. The rest of your statement I can't disagree with.

Starfinder

FallofCamelot wrote:

England is not Britain.

As a Brit I am sick to death of the constant references to a war that ended over 65 years ago. I groaned inwardly when I heard about the flypast. It makes our country look backward.

They do it for the same reason that the United States does. It was theirs and our last unqualified victory in a major conflict, not only major but spanning the entire planet. It was the last war of unquestioned unqualified victory, as opposed to the humiliation of losing a flagship destroyer to a single Argentinian Exocet missile during the Falklands incident.

Sovereign Court

I dunno, it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Using the WWII era planes is just part of the pageantry, just like the carriages and the medieval costumes/uniforms.

Silver Crusade

Justin Franklin wrote:
They actually did fly a group of 4 jets over the palace as well. The rest of your statement I can't disagree with.

I found that out after I posted.

Silver Crusade

Callous Jack wrote:
I dunno, it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Using the WWII era planes is just part of the pageantry, just like the carriages and the medieval costumes/uniforms.

Fair enough. YMMV of course.


Millions of pounds worth of Taxpayers money wasted on pointless frippery for a Juniour officer and his shop girl bride..

If I wasn't already a Republican today would have made me one.

Power to the People...


The military flew those planes over them while they kissed to send them a message. They wanted the future King and Queen of England to know who is really in charge.


Leafar the Lost wrote:
The military flew those planes over them while they kissed to send them a message. They wanted the future King and Queen of England to know who is really in charge.

World War II airplanes are!

: shakes fist :


DM Wellard wrote:

Millions of pounds worth of Taxpayers money wasted on pointless frippery for a Juniour officer and his shop girl bride..

If I wasn't already a Republican today would have made me one.

Power to the People...

Yes, but millions of us have had a day off (and quite a few of the sourpusses who didn't want it have got overtime rates), got to watch a real wedding on telly (rather than a soap opera disaster), see not only the bride and groom and their families but hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens looking really happy and had a really enjoyable time. Making people smile is a better use of my taxes than killing people - I prefer to keep that in the imagination in RPGs.

As for being a republican, the next President to have a grandchild marry while s/he's in office won't give the US a day off to celebrate but there will still be a significant protection bill. If Britain becomes a republic the same will happen to us, and tourists won't come from the US, Canada and Australia and spend money here to watch the son of President Who? married to offset the bill a bit.

And just why does a republican consider that a shop girl is worth less than any other citizen? Aren't republicans supposed to think that social class is unimportant (or am I missing some significance in the capital R?)?

Sovereign Court

DM Wellard wrote:

Millions of pounds worth of Taxpayers money wasted on pointless frippery for a Juniour officer and his shop girl bride..

If I wasn't already a Republican today would have made me one.

Power to the People...

+1. Sadly, that only makes about 20% of us.

The Exchange

Tensor wrote:

Check out > this video <

I guess we are seeing two things:
(1) The new, youthful Monarch,
(2) a demonstration of their Military Power.

Analysis: England thinks they are sexy (for the moment), and if you disagree they'll bomb your house from miles away.

Well, he won't be monarch for a while, since the current incumbent and then her successor have to die first. And we always do flypasts for this sort of thing. And he is a serving RAF officer, so maybe he liked the historical aspect.

And frankly, I bet they don't give a s!+$ what you think at all, so I wouldn't worry too much about heading for the bomb shelter.

Of course there is a large degree of PR in the whole thing, but since when did that make the Royals different for virtually every other public figure? And for the curmudgeons moaning about the cost, I will imagine that the UK economy will recoup the cost many times over from the tourism generated now and in the future.

Liberty's Edge

DM Wellard wrote:

Millions of pounds worth of Taxpayers money wasted on pointless frippery for a Juniour officer and his shop girl bride..

If I wasn't already a Republican today would have made me one.

Power to the People...

Uh...the Royal Family (and to a lesser extent her family, who are quite wealthy, if you hadn't heard) are paying for almost everything. I'm not saying it's not a ridiculously expensive wedding, but the taxpayers aren't paying for much beyond the security.

Which is expensive (8-32 million was the figure I heard quoted)...but probably more than made up for by commemorative items and similar merchandising (projected to make something like 44 million). Though it's a bit too soon to tell for sure, that sounds like a net profit. Or at least breaking even.

Let's chill out and let the nice young people have their pretty wedding.

Sovereign Court

Deadmanwalking wrote:
DM Wellard wrote:

Millions of pounds worth of Taxpayers money wasted on pointless frippery for a Juniour officer and his shop girl bride..

If I wasn't already a Republican today would have made me one.

Power to the People...

Uh...the Royal Family (and to a lesser extent her family, who are quite wealthy, if you hadn't heard) are paying for almost everything. I'm not saying it's not a ridiculously expensive wedding, but the taxpayers aren't paying for much beyond the security.

Which is expensive (8-32 million was the figure I heard quoted)...but probably more than made up for by commemorative items and similar merchandising (projected to make something like 44 million). Though it's a bit too soon to tell for sure, that sounds like a net profit. Or at least breaking even.

Even if it makes a break even or net profit the extra bank holiday they insist on to honour it will make up for that a hundredfold.

Scarab Sages

Deadmanwalking wrote:
Let's chill out and let the nice young people have their pretty wedding.

They seemed to have a blast...

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