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Problem: My gnome paladin (Phelterup the Brave) desires a mount suitable to his needs until such time as he reaches level 5 and acquires his Boar mount. At current the ability of both the regular Pony and Pony (combat trained) are insufficient for the purposes of carrying a gnome that is armored up and a compliment of barding. As such I humbly request assistance in determining a price for a Heavy Pony to aid this character.
Given: Mention of Heavy Horse in Bestiary and use of advanced simple template.
Given: Mention of Heavy Pony in Bestiary and use of advanced simple template.
Given: Prices for 4 variations of Horse in the Core Rulebook.
Given: Prices for 2 variations of Pony in the Core Rulebook.
Query: What would the price for a Heavy Pony be?
Side Note: I would prefer an answer beyond 'DM decision' as this character may entertain me enough to consider pursuing him in PFS.
Side Question: are their any weight difference for Saddles based on Mount size like there is for barding?
Problem: My gnome paladin (Phelterup the Brave) desires a mount suitable to his needs until such time as he reaches level 5 and acquires his Boar mount. At current the ability of both the regular Pony and Pony (combat trained) are insufficient for the purposes of carrying a gnome that is armored up and a compliment of barding. As such I humbly request assistance in determining a price for a Heavy Pony to aid this character.
Given: Mention of Heavy Horse in Bestiary and use of advanced simple template.
Given: Mention of Heavy Pony in Bestiary and use of advanced simple template.
Given: Prices for 4 variations of Horse in the Core Rulebook.
Given: Prices for 2 variations of Pony in the Core Rulebook.Query: What would the price for a Heavy Pony be?
Side Note: I would prefer an answer beyond 'DM decision' as this character may entertain me enough to consider pursuing him in PFS.
Side Question: are their any weight difference for Saddles based on Mount size like there is for barding?
Looking at the prices, I conclude that a combat trained horse or pony costs 50% (rounded up) more than an ordinary one. Therefore I would set the price for heavy combat-trained pony to 45x1.5=45+25(rounded up from 22.5)=70 gp.
I cannot speak for PFS games, but I think you should be able to argue for it this way.
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Looking at the prices, I conclude that a combat trained horse or pony costs 50% (rounded up) more than an ordinary one. Therefore I would set the price for heavy combat-trained pony to 45x1.5=45+25(rounded up from 22.5)=70 gp.
I cannot speak for PFS games, but I think you should be able to argue for it this way.
I agree with the 1.5 rate for combat training. That is not my issue. The 'root' of my query is that there is no stated price for a Heavy Pony, combat trained or not.
Extrapolating from the numbers available, this is what I have come up with:
Horse, Light (combat trained) 110gp (non combat 75),
Horse, Heavy (combat trained) 300gp (non combat 200),
300/110, gives 2.72, the rate for a combat trained heavy equine
200/75, gives 2.66, the rate for a non combat heavy equine
However, as the rate of combat training for a Light horse is lower than 1.5 (110/75=1.467) it is throwing off that number. For simplicity, I am setting the 'unofficial rate' as 2.66
After all that jazz, we arrive at a Heavy Pony base cost of 80 (30*2.66), combat trained of 120 (30*1.5*2.66 or 45*2.66).
Looking at the prices, I conclude that a combat trained horse or pony costs 50% (rounded up) more than an ordinary one. Therefore I would set the price for heavy combat-trained pony to 45x1.5=45+25(rounded up from 22.5)=70 gp.
I cannot speak for PFS games, but I think you should be able to argue for it this way.
I agree with the 1.5 rate for combat training. That is not my issue. The 'root' of my query is that there is no stated price for a Heavy Pony, combat trained or not.
Extrapolating from the numbers available, this is what I have come up with:
Horse, Light (combat trained) 110gp (non combat 75),
Horse, Heavy (combat trained) 300gp (non combat 200),300/110, gives 2.72, the rate for a combat trained heavy equine
200/75, gives 2.66, the rate for a non combat heavy equineHowever, as the rate of combat training for a Light horse is lower than 1.5 (110/75=1.467) it is throwing off that number. For simplicity, I am setting the 'unofficial rate' as 2.66
After all that jazz, we arrive at a Heavy Pony base cost of 80 (30*2.66), combat trained of 120 (30*1.5*2.66 or 45*2.66).
Ah, you are right. I looked at the wrong modification (non-combat to combat instead of light to heavy). Your numbers look reasonable to me then :-)
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Side Note: I would prefer an answer beyond 'DM decision' as this character may entertain me enough to consider pursuing him in PFS.
It isn't an option in PFS. PFS equipment, including mounts, are not unlimited. Heavy Pony would have to appear on an equipment list in an approved source. So, if appears in "Mounts of Golarion" with a listing that says something like: "Heavy Pony, 250gp," and "Mounts of Golarion" were to be in the PFS list of the stuff you can have...then your gnome paladin can have a heavy pony in PFS.