Recurring spell saves (and yes, I should know this)

[Sloanzilla]

I've always avoided "save per round" spells, so it hasn't come up until recently, which I noticed that my beloved glitterdust is now a save per round.

So I'm init. 20, baddies are init. 18 and everyone else is below that.

I cast glitterdust. They fail the saving throw on my init. Do they instantly get their "second save" on their init. turn, or on my next turn? And at what point has "one round" of the spell actually passed?

Sorry if this was one of those questions that has been asked 5 million times.

[wraithstrike]

Sloanzilla wrote:

I've always avoided "save per round" spells, so it hasn't come up until recently, which I noticed that my beloved glitterdust is now a save per round.

So I'm init. 20, baddies are init. 18 and everyone else is below that.

I cast glitterdust. They fail the saving throw on my init. Do they instantly get their "second save" on their init. turn, or on my next turn? And at what point has "one round" of the spell actually passed?

Sorry if this was one of those questions that has been asked 5 million times.

They save on their turn.

[Sloanzilla]

They make the second save on their turn, right?

So it makes the most sense to delay "save per level" spells to where everyone else goes between you and the baddies, because otherwise they basically get two saves in a row.

[Gallard Stormeye]

Sloanzilla wrote:

They make the second save on their turn, right?

So it makes the most sense to delay "save per level" spells to where everyone else goes between you and the baddies, because otherwise they basically get two saves in a row.

Not necessarily.

In the example you gave if you delayed for the rest of the party (essentially the bottom of the round) the bad guys would have a round of doing their thing unimpeded.

Regardless of how quickly they save out of the spell they are still affected by it for one full turns worth of their actions.

[Sloanzilla]

So I'm still missing something (I blame my allergies)

I cast at init. 20. They miss their save and get blinded.

Don't they get ANOTHER save at the start of init. 18 to become unblinded?

eta- ok it says "end of their turn" which finally makes sense.

[Hama]

Still isn't fair...i would rule that they get a new save at the beginning of their next turn. So at least one full round of blindness.

[Are]

Sloanzilla wrote:

And at what point has "one round" of the spell actually passed?

At the end of your next turn. That's how I play it, anyway.