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For example, a beautiful lady walks into a bar/tarven. A brawny/muscular character, player or NPC, with say... Str 18, takes an interest in her. He gives everyone else a look saying "She's mine". Would ANOTHER character of say Str 10 go challenge the Str 18 character?
Would an average person in real life go messing with someone larger or more physically intimidating? (Without knowing anything about the larger guy?)
Not only have I done this in RL. I win alot of fights like this becous they don't know what there in for. After 12+ years in kung fu. Size dose not mean alot in RL. It dose help them but not as much as you wold think. I was trainded to kill people not fight them. My favort first move on most people is to dislocate the petela. It tends to end the fight fast. And it only takes me a few min to put it back in place after im done with them.
Just rember some times. You run in to the wrong person. You never know.
Born to Kill. Trained to Heal.
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Then you must severely be lacking in the empathy stat. Children when interacting with their peers, tend to pick on the weak, deride the clumsy, and ridicule or shun the sickly. Your physical nature can have a very defining effect on your personality.On average, this is true to some degree, but in my experiece, attitude has a lot more to do with it than physical strength. Large, timid, people get made fun of and abused as easily as small, timid, ones, and small, agressive people are more than capable of either bullying or standing up to bullies.
Heck, my best friend growing up was a tiny guy, not particularly strong-looking (though strong for his size, making him around average strength-wise), but nobody messed with him because the first guy who did (who was something like 6'6" and 300 lbs in Middle School, though to be fair, alot of that was fat) he flipped out at and beat up with a lunch tray. Everyone left him alone after that.
I'm not a particularly big or strong guy either, but physical intimidation only got tried on me once, too (I fought dirty, and then went to the Principal, since they started it).
Succesful athletes tend to be fairly confident and agressive, but that's not necessarily strong people, and they aren't the only strong people out there, nor the only confident and agressive ones.
I haven't noiced these trends changing in adulthood, either. Hell, the most agressively confident person I ever met was a woman of dubious physical capabilities, she just had such force of personality almost everyone did as she said, and in many cases were quite scared of her.
Physical capabilities have a tendency to instill confidence, but the confidence (or lack thereof) is what tends to determine behavior, not the physical capabilities themselves.
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And to adress Secane: I've met Str 10-12 people who would totally take on the Str 18 guy. They might lose, but they'd do it. They're kinda crazy, but they certainly exist. Now, it's smarter to back down...
Not only have I done this in RL. I win alot of fights like this becous they don't know what there in for. After 12+ years in kung fu. Size dose not mean alot in RL. It dose help them but not as much as you wold think. I was trainded to kill people not fight them. My favort first move on most people is to dislocate the petela. It tends to end the fight fast. And it only takes me a few min to put it back in place after im done with them.Just rember some times. You run in to the wrong person. You never know.
Born to Kill. Trained to Heal.
Your both right. As I pointed out, someone who is crazy, someone who knows he can fight (and win) or someone who just have the force of personality to make the bigger guy back off, all could take on someone larger then themselves.
My example is about an average guy. Someone who does not have a ton of confidence, have no fighting training or other means to win such a fight and know it.
In any case, even as your character reacts the way their personalities/skills/training require them to, you as a player should be mindful that your character stats/skills and other factors should reflect what they will or will not do. And that it is not YOUR OWN personalities making the decision. (IF you can do so. Some people just play their chars as part of themselves, thats fine too.)
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The real problem is the game dose not do a very good job of working like RL. Nore should it from a machanical point of view thats not how the base rules where made. If you want a much better system for RP and much better character development look at Paladium Fantisy. The only reason I don't play that over D&D. Is the other players in my group like D&D better.
With Paladium Fantisy your avrage none skill based character starts with 20+ skills, and skill based characters start with 40+. All the fighting classes are skill based just like rogues. The only difrence is how good they are at doing there skill set. Casters and Psionic are the only none skilled characters.
Just a huge difrence in the base desine of the game.
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Your both right. As I pointed out, someone who is crazy, someone who knows he can fight (and win) or someone who just have the force of personality to make the bigger guy back off, all could take on someone larger then themselves.
My example is about an average guy. Someone who does not have a ton of confidence, have no fighting training or other means to win such a fight and know it.
And that's the thing, I was talking how to roleplay low Strength (and there not being a good way). There are absolutely ways to roleplay being an average guy...but average guys, the kind who'd back down from a fight just because the guy they're fighting is bigger than them, don't become adventurers. And thus, usually not PCs...so the roleplaying tricks of being someone normal are mostly useful to a GM.
In any case, even as your character reacts the way their personalities/skills/training require them to, you as a player should be mindful that your character stats/skills and other factors should reflect what they will or will not do. And that it is not YOUR OWN personalities making the decision. (IF you can do so. Some people just play their chars as part of themselves, thats fine too.)
I agree, but a character with low Strength can be casually noted by their player as willing to take on much larger foes or otherwise atypical of low-Strength people. A low Intelligence character has no such recourse. I mean, he can buy a Knowledge skill and be good at one thing many slow people aren't, but he's never going to stop being generally not that bright (barring Int increases, anyway). Not realistically, anyway. Which was really my whole point in the first place. :)
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Got to make this shot. Rushing as assignment.
I agree, but a character with low Strength can be casually noted by their player as willing to take on much larger foes or otherwise atypical of low-Strength people. A low Intelligence character has no such recourse. I mean, he can buy a Knowledge skill and be good at one thing many slow people aren't, but he's never going to stop being generally not that bright (barring Int increases, anyway). Not realistically, anyway. Which was really my whole point in the first place. :)
A low str character could always get/hire/befriend someone stronger and bigger to stand up for him. :)
A low Int character does pose a RP challenge. But remember, some of the best answers are the simplest ones. Something high Int character may not see. :P