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Question. I have my views on this but in our game our DM has another.
In a fight, someone wants to cast a heal spell of a friendly party member, does the person casting the spell need to make a touch attack against the friendly in the middle of combat just to do a heal spell?
OF since it is a friendly and they would want to be healed allow them to just touch the person in combat and heal them?
Seems to me you should just be able to cast this on a friendly and not be hamped in trying to keep the party alive.
Yar!
Delivering a touch spell to an ally who wants that spell effect is automatic. No need for an attack roll at all. It's only if the ally isn't in charge of his own movements AND is specifically avoiding the touch that a touch attack is required.
What he said. ^_^
But for even further proof (beyond a devs input you say? Yes! It's even specified in the CRB), turn to page 185 of the Core RuleBook.
PRD[/url]]Touch Spells in Combat: many spells have a range of touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target. You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack role.
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I see a typo --
"You can automatically touch one friend of use the spell on yourself"
Not saying that it is pirate's typo though -- could be in the book that way.
Just pointing it out.
...yar.
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...no, no, it's mine. I normally cross reference the book, PRD, and SRD, and if all three are the same, I copy-paste the SRD (as it lets you highlight the text)... but I couldn't find the quote quickly enough in the SRD, so I typed it out myself. The of should be, and is in the book: or.
blargh at you.
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...also: EDITED OUT! HA! Now you're the crazy one! ^_^;;
Duh? I mean look at me. Of course I'm the crazy one -- what are you talking about Cletus?
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Yar!
Delivering a touch spell to an ally who wants that spell effect is automatic. No need for an attack roll at all. It's only if the ally isn't in charge of his own movements AND is specifically avoiding the touch that a touch attack is required.What he said. ^_^
But for even further proof (beyond a devs input you say? Yes! It's even specified in the CRB), turn to page 185 of the Core RuleBook.
PRD[/url]]Touch Spells in Combat: many spells have a range of touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target. You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack role.~P
Thank you, exactly what I was looking for as neither the DM nor myself could find it. So now that we have the official ruling. Thanks again
(wrote stuff)Thank you, exactly what I was looking for as neither the DM nor myself could find it. So now that we have the official ruling. Thanks again
You know, for me, James Jacobs telling me how it works is as good as an official ruling! ;-)
Well, this is the Rules Questions forum after all, we all have to keep up to higher standars here. :P
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Delivering a touch spell to an ally who wants that spell effect is automatic. No need for an attack roll at all. It's only if the ally isn't in charge of his own movements AND is specifically avoiding the touch that a touch attack is required.
Having said this, can you please confirm or clarify that if an oracle is using faith's reach they do not need to make a ranged touch attack to cast cure light wounds on an ally 20 feet away?
Delivering a touch spell to an ally who wants that spell effect is automatic. No need for an attack roll at all. It's only if the ally isn't in charge of his own movements AND is specifically avoiding the touch that a touch attack is required.Having said this, can you please confirm or clarify that if an oracle is using faith's reach they do not need to make a ranged touch attack to cast cure light wounds on an ally 20 feet away?
The likelihood that you will get a direct answer for this very obscure question is low, but it is safe to assume that it still succeeds automatically, regardless of the range. It does not specify that it does not succeed automatically, so in this case a specific rule does not override a general one.
Strange necro-post, but the answer is the same: Faith's Reach says, "If the spell normally requires a melee touch attack, it instead requires a ranged touch attack."
If your ally is willing, you are NOT "normally required" to roll a melee attack. If you're targeting an unwilling character with a spell that "normally requires" a melee touch attack, then yes, you would have to roll the ranged attack.
