Schmitty isn't overly fond of being in chains. Halfling slavery is far too common. Plus he's understandably pissed because he didn't do anything.
Edit: Didnt do anything that he's aware of.
Roger is about ready to punch Conner for that insult haha :P
I have a feeling Conner and Roger are not going to like each other lol
You may want to use your character profile in this thread so we can remember who is whom.
You may want to use your character profile in this thread so we can remember who is whom.Roger is about ready to punch Conner for that insult haha :P
I have a feeling Conner and Roger are not going to like each other lol
Roger roger (get it?!) - Stomphoof
Roger roger (get it?!) - Stomphoof
Ba dum bum
@Cousin Schmitty: Please note that you can go back and edit your posts if it has been less than an hour, so you can put all of what you want to say in one post instead of several. You can also have multiple quotes in one post.
@Cousin Schmitty: Please note that you can go back and edit your posts if it has been less than an hour, so you can put all of what you want to say in one post instead of several. You can also have multiple quotes in one post.
gotcha. Will do.
So this entire thing....I have a song that perfectly describes it.
Anyone hear of a particular song from the musical Spring Awakening?
"But the thing that makes you really jump? Is that the weirdest stuff is still to come. You can ask yourself, 'Hey, what have I done?' You're just a fly, the little guys, they kill for fun."
The song is called Totally *censored*, if anyone wants to hear it.
I'll stop nerding on you guys now.
Perhaps this is premature, but I think I'm going to take a dip or two into a martial class. Either fighter or ranger, im leaning toward ranger. I like the rangers BAB, skills and saves, but not so much the other class features except combat style (melee) if i take two levels.
Thoughts?
Perhaps this is premature, but I think I'm going to take a dip or two into a martial class. Either fighter or ranger, im leaning toward ranger. I like the rangers BAB, skills and saves, but not so much the other class features except combat style (melee) if i take two levels.
Thoughts?
Well at the rate I am going I am going to end up being Lawful Neutral instead of Lawful Good, as Roger is becoming more of a crusader for Law and Order and whatnot...
I am curious if Darkthorne would help me setup maybe a divine revelation and takes levels in Cleric later, course I would need to know which god handles Law and Order in his world of course.
Rangers are fun as well :) Never been a huge fan of em myself though, unless its an Archer.
Rangers are fun as well :) Never been a huge fan of em myself though, unless its an Archer.
Ive never played a pathfinder ranger. I tend to go with arcane characters and to a lesser extent rogues. I have a hard time with the traditional armored fighter mentality. It doesn't suite me. I'd much rather stand back and throw fireballs. ;-)
i intend to make schmitty have a spring attack build, so I may take fighter instead of ranger for the feat selection, but we'll see.
Clerical revelations are easy. God(s) speak to you in your dreams. You awake with a new understanding of the nature of the divine. bla bla bla
Edit: Unless of course the DM want's to do something more story driven for the cleric thing.
I would prefer each character to specialize and work together as a group to accomplish tasks. That way every single character is important and vital to both the story and the survival of the other characters. If you run into something or get into some situation that prompts you to want to add a class or something like that I will help you arrange that. If you have a request, I can work it in, but I discourage spreading your characters too thinly, especially early in play, as each class has specific benefits at higher levels and can confer lots of power to an individual and to a group. You don't for instance, want to end up fighting big monsters at fourth level with a character who has one level in four classes, as that is not much better than a first level character. Before you consider adding a class, please read over the rules about that on page 31 and 32 of the PCR and consider what I have just said about the whole "Jack of all trades, master of none" danger. Please also realize that some to mix some classes would go against tenants and beliefs held by each class. For example, a Druid-Barbarian would not be very good. Also beware penalties incurred with religious classes like monk, cleric, and paladin.
I would prefer each character to specialize and work together as a group to accomplish tasks. That way every single character is important and vital to both the story and the survival of the other characters. If you run into something or get into some situation that prompts you to want to add a class or something like that I will help you arrange that. If you have a request, I can work it in, but I discourage spreading your characters too thinly, especially early in play, as each class has specific benefits at higher levels and can confer lots of power to an individual and to a group. You don't for instance, want to end up fighting big monsters at fourth level with a character who has one level in four classes, as that is not much better than a first level character. Before you consider adding a class, please read over the rules about that on page 31 and 32 of the PCR and consider what I have just said about the whole "Jack of all trades, master of none" danger. Please also realize that some to mix some classes would go against tenants and beliefs held by each class. For example, a Druid-Barbarian would not be very good. Also beware penalties incurred with religious classes like monk, cleric, and paladin.
Eh mine was just a thought. Also monks are not religious in the same way that a cleric or paladin might be. They do have a belief system though.
I was curious about changing alignment to LN though. I am finding Roger to be more along those lines the LG.
@ Roger: Yes, that will be fine. Monks are generally (in my experience) more neutral anyhow. you must remain Lawful though, I am assuming you know that if you change to non-lawful you will not be able to gain any more monk abilities?
@ Roger: Yes, that will be fine. Monks are generally (in my experience) more neutral anyhow. you must remain Lawful though, I am assuming you know that if you change to non-lawful you will not be able to gain any more monk abilities?
Oh yes I am aware. Been playing DND for a while now :) Pathfinder didnt change THAT much :D
Lawful Neutral it is!
I would prefer each character to specialize and work together as a group to accomplish tasks. That way every single character is important and vital to both the story and the survival of the other characters. If you run into something or get into some situation that prompts you to want to add a class or something like that I will help you arrange that. If you have a request, I can work it in, but I discourage spreading your characters too thinly, especially early in play, as each class has specific benefits at higher levels and can confer lots of power to an individual and to a group. You don't for instance, want to end up fighting big monsters at fourth level with a character who has one level in four classes, as that is not much better than a first level character. Before you consider adding a class, please read over the rules about that on page 31 and 32 of the PCR and consider what I have just said about the whole "Jack of all trades, master of none" danger. Please also realize that some to mix some classes would go against tenants and beliefs held by each class. For example, a Druid-Barbarian would not be very good. Also beware penalties incurred with religious classes like monk, cleric, and paladin.
I was just contemplating a short dip (max of two levels) in a melee class to be just a little more useful in combat situations. THat's all. If you would prefer single classes only I'm cool with that.
Wow, IC I think Conner doesn't like the tempermental human.
Darkthorne, how do you feel about interparty coflict, ie if Roger and Conner get into a fight? Roger would of course do only subdual damage, but he does not take kindly to being insulted by someone for no reason he can discern. Hence my asking.
Cause if Conner keeps insulting him and his skills, Roger may decide to beat some sense into him (no offense Conner, I dig how our party isn't a big happy family!)
Wow, IC I think Conner doesn't like the tempermental human.
Darkthorne, how do you feel about interparty coflict, ie if Roger and Conner get into a fight? Roger would of course do only subdual damage, but he does not take kindly to being insulted by someone for no reason he can discern. Hence my asking.
Cause if Conner keeps insulting him and his skills, Roger may decide to beat some sense into him (no offense Conner, I dig how our party isn't a big happy family!)
My 2c:
They rely on each other for their very survival. A level headed person would get over it and make it work. Infighting is never helpful.
Wow, IC I think Conner doesn't like the tempermental human.
Darkthorne, how do you feel about interparty coflict, ie if Roger and Conner get into a fight? Roger would of course do only subdual damage, but he does not take kindly to being insulted by someone for no reason he can discern. Hence my asking.
Cause if Conner keeps insulting him and his skills, Roger may decide to beat some sense into him (no offense Conner, I dig how our party isn't a big happy family!)
My 2c:
They rely on each other for their very survival. A level headed person would get over it and make it work. Infighting is never helpful.
Oh I agree OOC. But right now the two of them are having an issue with each other. Conner seems to be acting like Roger is an idiot/braggart/hot head (although hot head is a true thing), and Roger is getting sick of being harassed.
Roger is going to try talking to Conner first of course. But Conner is not much for the social graces. Common sense dictates that he work out the issues and he will do his best to try, but eventually he will just get sick of it.
Oh I agree OOC. But right now the two of them are having an issue with each other. Conner seems to be acting like Roger is an idiot/braggart/hot head (although hot head is a true thing), and Roger is getting sick of being harassed.
Roger is going to try talking to Conner first of course. But Conner is not much for the social graces. Common sense dictates that he work out the issues and he will do his best to try, but eventually he will just get sick of it.
Try saving his life a few times. That tends to put people on their place. ;-)
Try saving his life a few times. That tends to put people on their place. ;-)Oh I agree OOC. But right now the two of them are having an issue with each other. Conner seems to be acting like Roger is an idiot/braggart/hot head (although hot head is a true thing), and Roger is getting sick of being harassed.
Roger is going to try talking to Conner first of course. But Conner is not much for the social graces. Common sense dictates that he work out the issues and he will do his best to try, but eventually he will just get sick of it.
Haha yes, with the face punching.
Haha yes, with the face punching.
He's a pally and you're a monk. He's got the advantage, espically if he's got any kind of weapon.
If you're feeling froggy go ahead and jump, but I suspect you'll have your ass handed to you.
just my 2c.
Conner is a paladin? I think the half orc is the pally.
EDIT: Yup Conner is a ranger, Arvind the Half Orc is the paladin, and the half orc and Roger havent had an issue yet.
I just posted, Roger is going to try to solve this peacefully, assuming Conner is amniable. If not we will go from there.
Conner is a paladin? I think the half orc is the pally.
EDIT: Yup Conner is a ranger, Arvind the Half Orc is the paladin, and the half orc and Roger havent had an issue yet.
I just posted, Roger is going to try to solve this peacefully, assuming Conner is amniable. If not we will go from there.
You're right. I had teh names backward in my head. Still, he has a BAB and you don't. ... We shall see.
You're right. I had teh names backward in my head. Still, he has a BAB and you don't. ... We shall see.Conner is a paladin? I think the half orc is the pally.
EDIT: Yup Conner is a ranger, Arvind the Half Orc is the paladin, and the half orc and Roger havent had an issue yet.
I just posted, Roger is going to try to solve this peacefully, assuming Conner is amniable. If not we will go from there.
I am also AC 18 unarmored, he is AC 13, and he has +3 to hit vs my +4 or my 2 +3 attacks (flurry of blows). I dont need a BAB to hit him, but he WILL need one to hit me if it comes to that :P I basically have a 50% chance to hit the man, he has a much lower chance to hit me.
Now if he had a weapon and armor we would be on more even ground, mechanically.
But thats all metagame knowledge. For all Roger knows this guy has unarmed training as well. He doesn't care though.
Best of luck.
Best of luck.
Haha. Hey I am trying to solve it peacefully at the moment :P
Best of luck.Haha. Hey I am trying to solve it peacefully at the moment :P
I think you're reading into it too much, but you do whatever you think your character would do. At the moment, based on in character actions and not OOC discussion, it appears as though the Lawful Neutral Mentally and Phycially Balanced monk is picking a fight.
I think you're reading into it too much, but you do whatever you think your character would do. At the moment, based on in character actions and not OOC discussion, it appears as though the Lawful Neutral Mentally and Phycially Balanced monk is picking a fight.Best of luck.Haha. Hey I am trying to solve it peacefully at the moment :P
Well Roger has been called a Barbaric Human, and Conner has made what appear to be sarcastic remarks towards him in regards to his skills. He is a bit upset (who wouldnt be after what they have been through thus far) and may be redirecting his anger towards the wrong target. Just because someone is Lawful Neutral does not mean they would not have a temper (and historically, red heads have a short fuse...I got one for a sister >.>) but they are quick to forgive as well in most cases.
Hence why he is talking first. Also lets not forget he has a low charisma. He speaks his mind and is upfront with people and wants others to do the same to him. Having someone pull that passive aggressive stuff that the Conner is doing IC is not something he would like. Hence the confronting. If DM Darkthorne comes in and tells me not to start an ACTUAL fight (ie me attacking him or vice versa) then I will do that and instead end up pointedly ignoring Conner and not speaking to him.
But Roger would rather have it out now, figure out what is wrong with Conner in regards to himself, then waiting till they are knee deep in critters and having to try to keep each other alive. You know, your character COULD try to jump in and Mediate the problem, or someone elses could, but thus far no one is, so there is that as well.
Does this explain the motivation better?
OOC I am a nice guy and dont generally do in character fighting, but hey, a little drama is nothing bad! If say you or Arvind came up and said something my character would be inclined to listen as you two have thus far treated him well.
You don't have to justify anything to me.
I repeat:
I think you're reading into it too much, but you do whatever you think your character would do.
Sadly, I won't be able to post much today, as I'm away from my computer until later tonight. I'm fine with you guys continuing on though, you can just assume Kale is being fairly quiet. :)
Sadly, I won't be able to post much today, as I'm away from my computer until later tonight. I'm fine with you guys continuing on though, you can just assume Kale is being fairly quiet. :)
He seems like a quiet sort anyway. Have fun with whatever you are doin!
@ Roger, Connor: I am fine with intra-character conflict, but please keep it verbal unless something really serious comes up. You do need to work together so try not to make enemies. Roger, also bear in mind that you are lawful and neutral and monks, though known for their physical prowess, are also known for their serenity, peace of mind, meditative practices, etc.
Everyone should try to play their characters as true to the character as possible. This may at times inhibit your own desires or drives, but in the end it will keep things running smoothly and make for a better group dynamic.
To All: I will be gone this weekend, starting Friday. If we could have a weekend break during the in-game night, that would work out nicely. In other words, *hint hint* Go to bed!
@ Roger, Connor: I am fine with intra-character conflict, but please keep it verbal unless something really serious comes up. You do need to work together so try not to make enemies. Roger, also bear in mind that you are lawful and neutral and monks, though known for their physical prowess, are also known for their serenity, peace of mind, meditative practices, etc.
Everyone should try to play their characters as true to the character as possible. This may at times inhibit your own desires or drives, but in the end it will keep things running smoothly and make for a better group dynamic.
So what you are saying is just because most monks are something, that I must play Roger that way? I have a bit of an issue with this. People can have tempers and remember he trained himself it was not formal training.
I have no problem modifying things to an extent but if you want me to play a specific way because thats the way they "usually" are played then I would prefer to bow out peacefully and have you guys play your game. No offense.
EDIT: Yea drop me out of the game. You can have Roger get poisoned or something from dinner (maybe the king didnt like his antics or something). I am going to focus on the other game I got into. Have fun guys *waves*
@ Roger: No. I am not saying you have to play a specific stereotype of monk. In fact, more complex characters are very interesting. I am merely saying that it may be too soon to jump to beating up your companions over a little jibe. Monks are wise, why don't you think of a clever insult back? If you don't want to be in the game, that is fine. However, if you change your mind, I will allow you to remain a character. If not, ciao.
@ Roger: No. I am not saying you have to play a specific stereotype of monk. In fact, more complex characters are very interesting. I am merely saying that it may be too soon to jump to beating up your companions over a little jibe. Monks are wise, why don't you think of a clever insult back? If you don't want to be in the game, that is fine. However, if you change your mind, I will allow you to remain a character. If not, ciao.
Eh its fine. I figure you guys can work together a bit better without the hot head anyway.
Ciao, I am going to keep an eye on the game and see you guys do though! *waves*
weird, but alright.
Hey all,
Was afk today so missed everything that happened with Roger. I just want to clarify my standpoint; I'm new at this so if I've messed up the game I am terribly sorry.
My character is currently bitter about the situation he left at home and very untrusting of anyone and everyone. He is annoyed with his situation and had been taking it out on Roger, who he thought to be a hothead.
I have no issue with whoever it was controlling Roger, and no issue with Roger as a character. I was trying to play through the lens of my character and I hope I did that appropriately.
@Roger: Good luck in your other game. Sorry for the drama.
@ Connor You didn't mess anything up, Inter-character fighting happens, sometimes for fun, sometimes because people cant handle stuff.
It sounds like Roger was just playing his character the way he though that it should be played which is fine. I had a game I played where I was constantly warring with another character for control of the group. It almost came to blows a couple of times but we managed to keep it peaceful and mostly verbal. We would both try and get the group to follow our orders it was pretty fun (I ended up winning the party loyalty in the end and he grudgingly submitted) Though we where almost constantly fighting in game we would joke all the time in the OOC thread so it was all good.
Sorry to go off on that tangent but I was just trying to give you an example of how it works sometimes. So don't feel like you drove Roger away or something, enjoy the game and if you wanna poke jibes at someone feel free.
@Daemon Thanks for letting me know. It's good to hear it's not my bad, and if I start beefing with anyone in-game, you can assume it's not personal.
@Daemon Thanks for letting me know. It's good to hear it's not my bad, and if I start beefing with anyone in-game, you can assume it's not personal.
Nah you didnt run me off Conner :) But my character WOULD have come to blows with you had things kept up, which would cause a bit of conflict that would not be needed, so I am bowing out. No harm, no foul :)
@ Rogor and Conner - There's no chance of you two sleeping the rest of the night and waking up more calm, serene, and accepting of one another?
Only just caught up with the 'drama', and I was getting Arvind lined up to do a bit of peacemaking intimidation....oh well..
Sorry to see you leave, but if its what you want to do then good luck in the other game.
I am now leaving. I have set it up so you all can discuss your course of action and go to sleep. When I return after Easter, we can resume in the game morning!
Until then,
DMDT
I am now leaving. I have set it up so you all can discuss your course of action and go to sleep. When I return after Easter, we can resume in the game morning!
Until then,
DMDT
Enjoy your weekend.
I'll miss you. *single tear* *soft weeping*
Humm, checked this after I submitted my heal check. Ill just leave it up and discuss with you guys as I am checking roger over.
Humm, checked this after I submitted my heal check. Ill just leave it up and discuss with you guys as I am checking roger over.
Wow I just noticed all the IC stuff you guys are doing for Roger! That is interesting.
If you guys want me to stay that bad let me know. I dont mind staying out but its up to all of you. I was not in a great mood yesterday when I left (my job is the pits) so I probably acted hastily, but at the same time I want to make sure that In Character Conner would be willing to work things out with Roger.
And of course if Darkthrone can work it out when he gets back.
*zips back off*
@Connor when doing a check using a stat (Charisma) as the base you only add the modifier (+1 in your case) not the entire stat so your roll would only be 20 as opposed to 31
also, generally speaking you only roll Diplomacy and the like vs. NPC characters because player characters dont enjoy "having" to do something just because your "lets be friendly" roll was really high. I don't mind personally, thats just how DM's usually call it.
Roger, if you want to stay than please feel free, that would be great. However, if you choose to stay please don't make a habit of bailing. It's not good for the game or story continuity.
Roger, if you want to stay than please feel free, that would be great. However, if you choose to stay please don't make a habit of bailing. It's not good for the game or story continuity.
Its not something I intend to make a habit of. As I said I was having a bad day IRL and basically acted like an idiot. Which I am prone to do (Open Mouth Insert Foot GOGO)
I am gonna wait for everyone to chime in first though before I do anything though. Just to be fair.
People make mistakes and I allot for at least one. As far as I'm concerned It's forgiven and forgotten, but I'll vote with the majority on the issue.
Edit: Dm will be back monday. It's his game and his call.