Demon Lords and Possession


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So here's my problem:

The Demon Lord Armel (Custom) has been able to corrupt a paladin prince, then possessed him after a series of grueling challenges. My problem is that while I try to state him out what exactly should I do to make the paladin prince more demon lord like?

I was thinking of adding Nassant Demon Lord Traits from Hordes of the Abyss, but in addition to anti paladin spells, his abilities and what else should he have?

Here's the run down on Armel

He's the lord of the black flame
Domains Chaos, Evil, Fire, Darkness

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I would check out some of the stuff from Book of the Damned 2: Lords of Chaos. It has some demonic implants and spells and the like.


Sorry that was the book i was referrencing to when I said Hordes of the Abyss, its what I have it listed under on my computer

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Maverick898 wrote:
Sorry that was the book i was referrencing to when I said Hordes of the Abyss, its what I have it listed under on my computer

Ah ok, then no idea's sorry. :)

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Maverick898 wrote:

My problem is that while I try to state him out what exactly should I do to make the paladin prince more demon lord like?

This has some pretty cool ideas for Demon possession. Read through that and it may give you a few thoughts on what he could get. Keep in mind that its not official Paizo stuff though.

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Pathfinder #28 has a whole article about possession by fiends.


Maverick898 wrote:

what exactly should I do to make the paladin prince more demon lord like?

Well, "demon lord like" how? In appearance? In behavior? In power level? In attributes?

Off the top of my head, a prince possessed by a demon lord shouldn't be obvious to casual examination. If he looks perfectly normal, he can get away with a lot more stuff. Eventually it'll be all too obvious that something is horribly wrong -- but in the short run, the monster can conceal itself. And having him seem pleasant and normal will make the impact that much greater when the mask comes off.

Doug M.


Douglas Muir 406 wrote:
Maverick898 wrote:

what exactly should I do to make the paladin prince more demon lord like?

Well, "demon lord like" how? In appearance? In behavior? In power level? In attributes?

Off the top of my head, a prince possessed by a demon lord shouldn't be obvious to casual examination. If he looks perfectly normal, he can get away with a lot more stuff. Eventually it'll be all too obvious that something is horribly wrong -- but in the short run, the monster can conceal itself. And having him seem pleasant and normal will make the impact that much greater when the mask comes off.

Doug M.

It's in terms of power level, I already have know what he will look like when the mask comes off, but I'm curious to know what true demon lords are capable of, even though Lords of Chaos give us alot of info on demon lords, and nescant demon lords, I'm thinking of making him an outsider now and give him some very powerful abilites such in addition to the anti paladin abilites, then add the nascant demon lord traits, some spell like abilites. Or is there another "offical" way of making a demon lord?


I have to ask... what level are your PCs?

Because it's canon that demon lords are CR 30-35, and thus not suitable opponents for non-epic play.

Doug M.


Douglas Muir 406 wrote:


I have to ask... what level are your PCs?

Because it's canon that demon lords are CR 30-35, and thus not suitable opponents for non-epic play.

Doug M.

My bad, this isn`t for the players to face. The prince paladin is a player who`s leaving who ended the game corrupted, so privately i told him what happened to his character and he asked if I could do up what his character would end up like when he merges with the demon lord

I am aiming for a CR 25ish, because the demon lord does not have his full power in his weak mortal form, but given time, enough scarfices, and his clerics once again recieving spells from there demon lord that could all change.


I'm running an epic lvl game (or will be at the end the pc's are lvl 2) and what I intend to do to stat out the 4 horseman is take a base demon and add lvls to them in mage or fighter ect, and addin some homebrew abilities that would go with the demon

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