What type are you when these spells are cast?
Do you stay your orignal type, or do you change types?
When in form of the dragon do dragon bane weapons function against you even though your a human?
In the spells it says you take/assume the form of X Y or Z. It does not state that you gain that type or subtype. It also does not state that you do not gain the type or subtype.
My search foo may have been weak and I was not able to find the answer.
Anybody know on this one?
Polymorph: a polymorph spell transforms your physical body to take on the shape of another creature. While these spells make you appear to be the creature, granting you a +20 bonus on Disguise skill checks, they do not grant you all of the abilities and powers of the creature. Each polymorph spell allows you to assume the form of a creature of a specific type, granting you a number of bonuses to your ability scores and a bonus to your natural armor. In addition, each polymorph spell can grant you a number of other benefits, including movement types, resistances, and senses. If the form you choose grants these benefits, or a greater ability of the same type, you gain the listed benefit. If the form grants a lesser ability of the same type, you gain the lesser ability instead. Your base speed changes to match that of the form you assume. If the form grants a swim or burrow speed, you maintain the ability to breathe if you are swimming or burrowing. The DC for any of these abilities equals your DC for the polymorph spell used to change you into that form.In addition to these benefits, you gain any of the natural attacks of the base creature, including proficiency in those attacks. These attacks are based on your base attack bonus, modified by your Strength or Dexterity as appropriate, and use your Strength modifier for determining damage bonuses.
If a polymorph spell causes you to change size, apply the size modifiers appropriately, changing your armor class, attack bonus, Combat Maneuver Bonus, and Stealth skill modifiers. Your ability scores are not modified by this change unless noted by the spell.
Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.
When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, all of your gear melds into your body. Items that provide constant bonuses and do not need to be activated continue to function while melded in this way (with the exception of armor and shield bonuses, which cease to function). Items that require activation cannot be used while you maintain that form. While in such a form, you cannot cast any spells that require material components (unless you have the Eschew Materials or Natural Spell feat), and can only cast spells with somatic or verbal components if the form you choose has the capability to make such movements or speak, such as a dragon. Other polymorph spells might be subject to this restriction as well, if they change you into a form that is unlike your original form (subject to GM discretion). If your new form does not cause your equipment to meld into your form, the equipment resizes to match your new size.
While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form. You also lose any class features that depend upon form, but those that allow you to add features (such as sorcerers that can grow claws) still function. While most of these should be obvious, the GM is the final arbiter of what abilities depend on form and are lost when a new form is assumed. Your new form might restore a number of these abilities if they are possessed by the new form.
You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.
If a polymorph spell is cast on a creature that is smaller than Small or larger than Medium, first adjust its ability scores to one of these two sizes using the following table before applying the bonuses granted by the polymorph spell.
Honestly using magic is like taking medicine -- don't do it until you read all the fine print, and know what it is, what it is for, and what it could do to you.
Yes I have read that, and nowhere does it say you gain or replace your current type with that of what you turn into.
Here are the only lines that talk about type.
1. Each polymorph spell allows you to assume the form of a creature of a specific type.
2. your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type
3. When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, all of your gear melds into your body.
1. Just says you assuem toe form of, it does not say you gain that type.
2. Only deals with appearance not changing your type.
3. It talks about a spell that changes into a creature of a type. Again not stating it changes your type.
If it had a line like, your type becomes dragon. Then your type is changed. for instance a monk becomes 20th level and gets Pefect Self.
At 20th level, a monk becomes a magical creature.
That is a clear change in the creatures type. While the polymorphs spells do not state the clear change.
Is there an errata that states a clear change, or do you keep your orignal type while you are polymorphed?
Polymorph spells in Pathfinder are more of a matter of putting on a costume that partially mimics the creature it's based on, not actually becoming that creature. So you remain the same type. Although shapchanger bane weapons do wonders on you since polymorphed spelled individuals are a specific target for that enchant. Human bane continues to work on you as well.
That is what I was thinking, but I was looking for that rule.
There doesn't need to be a rule on it. You answered your own question above. Nothing in the descriptions of Polymorph spells say that you change your (sub-)type, therefore you don't change them. You retain whatever you had before. Since bane weapons (as an example) don't care what you look like, but rather your (sub-)type, it just sees which one you have - the same as it was before you cast your polymorph spell - and acts accordingly.
If there needed to be a mention of what [i[doesn't[/i] change for everything, the book would weigh 500 pounds. Pathfinder is an exception based system. Unless something specifically calls out an exception, then it follows the general rules. Since polymorph mentions no exception about changing type, you don't. That simple.
That is a clear change in the creatures type. While the polymorphs spells do not state the clear change.
Is there an errata that states a clear change, or do you keep your orignal type while you are polymorphed?
1. If it doesn't say you change type then you don't now do you?
2. See number 1.
3. See number 1 again.
The level 20 monk ability is not a polymorph effect -- it specifically does something to you that isn't a polymorph.