Hi, been playing DnD 3.5 for a little while now however I'm just now starting to really enjoy the pathfinder system. However that being said I'm still quite unfamiliar with all the new rules. I'm trying to treat pathfinder as it's own system and not look at it like DnD.
In any case, I'm starting up a level 10 campaign and I'm having a bit of trouble with some templates..(See my other post at
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/rules /vampireHalfDragon)
Right now basis of the story is that my party is is fighting off a horde of trolls, ogres, and various goblinoids. However I wanted to make something really special, I was hoping to combine an ogre with a troll into some hybrid of half-troll, half-ogre ranger. (My original design was to make it fiendish as well but I decided against it.) I was curious if there was any half-ogre templates that I could just add to the troll itself. Or if anyone possibly knows an easy way to create this npc. I look at the Half-Ogre already but it's simply a monster and I'm not sure how I would cross the two monsters into one. I'm still new as a DM, and have only held 2 sessions thus far both being in DnD 3.5. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
what is your goal with this monster?
Are you trying to make a weaker troll by crossing it with an ogre?
If so use troll and apply the "young template" and call it a half-ogre troll.
Are you trying to disguise the fact that it is a troll by making it look more like an ogre?
If so look at the Ogre Mage monster, it regenerates like a troll, looks more like an ogre and has the spell like ability.
IF you are looking for something a bit more powerful, but doesn't look like a troll, add regenerate/fast heal to a hill giant with some claws and a bite and call it good.
To be honest I was actually trying to make the ogre a bit more brutal by giving it the scent and regeneration abilities of a troll and then adding class levels. Mainly for storyline purposes really (They're fighting mostly ogre's not trolls that much though they have fought a few.) Many of the Ogre I've seen in 3.5 can be quite brutal such as the Stonecrusher Ogre in the MM3. However I am wanting to throw a fairly difficult boss at them and decided on giving this beast class levels in either ranger or barbarian. The problem I am having is as far as I can read, the monsters quote "level adjustment" I guess you could call it is equal to their CR. Meaning if I wanted to throw lets say just a troll at them it would only be about a level 5 ranger. (I think I'm doing that right..was easier for me when lvl adjustment + Hit dice = ECL)...In anycase most of my party is fairly well equiped and I've been having to make the monsters harder.
To be honest I was actually trying to make the ogre a bit more brutal by giving it the scent and regeneration abilities of a troll and then adding class levels. Mainly for storyline purposes really (They're fighting mostly ogre's not trolls that much though they have fought a few.) Many of the Ogre I've seen in 3.5 can be quite brutal such as the Stonecrusher Ogre in the MM3. However I am wanting to throw a fairly difficult boss at them and decided on giving this beast class levels in either ranger or barbarian. The problem I am having is as far as I can read, the monsters quote "level adjustment" I guess you could call it is equal to their CR. Meaning if I wanted to throw lets say just a troll at them it would only be about a level 5 ranger. (I think I'm doing that right..was easier for me when lvl adjustment + Hit dice = ECL)...In anycase most of my party is fairly well equiped and I've been having to make the monsters harder.
As the GM, you're not bound by LA when creating a creature (LA was a clunky rule that was designed so that players could attempt to play monstrous races). When adding class levels to a creature with racial hit die, just determine the creature's role (in this case it would be combat) and if you add class levels that augment that role (fighter and barbarian qualify) then you just add +1 to the monster's CR for every level you give it.
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To answer the original question, I give you the following.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/ogrekin-cr-1
Stacking it on top of Troll should result in something amusingly powerful. Feel free to throw on Fighter or Ranger levels to make it even worse.
And CR calculations are easy: Base CR + Templates +1 per class level.
So an Ogrekin Troll is CR 6. An Ogrekin Troll Ranger 5 is CR 11. If he's only Ranger 4 drop that to CR 10, and so on and so forth.
What about Ogre Mage, has regen and spells already, tack on fighter levels and poof easy baddy.
hmm thanks guys, I'll take a look into those. I haven't thought about ogre mage might actually work for what I'm doing. Thanks again.