Ravenbow
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Firing into melee combat invokes a -4 penalty to the attack if an ally is adjacent.
-2 if the target is 2 size categories larger
0 is Precise Shot feat is taken.
Those are the givens as I understand them.
Where is it written.. in THIS edition (ie Pathfinder, not AD&D 3.0 3.5 4.0) that firing into melee has a "miss chance" of striking an ally?
Isn't that what rolling ones are for?
| Slaunyeh |
Where is it written.. in THIS edition (ie Pathfinder, not AD&D 3.0 3.5 4.0) that firing into melee has a "miss chance" of striking an ally?Isn't that what rolling ones are for?
It isn't written in PF that there is a chance to strike an ally. Striking the cover was a 'feature' in 3.0. It was removed in 3.5 and it hasn't been reintroduced in PF.
| Maldollen |
Firing into melee combat invokes a -4 penalty to the attack if an ally is adjacent.
-2 if the target is 2 size categories larger
0 is Precise Shot feat is taken.
Those are the givens as I understand them.
Where is it written.. in THIS edition (ie Pathfinder, not AD&D 3.0 3.5 4.0) that firing into melee has a "miss chance" of striking an ally?
Isn't that what rolling ones are for?
Slaunyeh is correct, though many, many GMs use a houserule to do so.
Also, the target may be provided cover, giving it a +4 AC bonus. Even so, there is no PF rule provision for striking that cover and/or an ally.
Diego Rossi
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Ravenbow wrote:It isn't written in PF that there is a chance to strike an ally. Striking the cover was a 'feature' in 3.0. It was removed in 3.5 and it hasn't been reintroduced in PF.
Where is it written.. in THIS edition (ie Pathfinder, not AD&D 3.0 3.5 4.0) that firing into melee has a "miss chance" of striking an ally?Isn't that what rolling ones are for?
I was checking the rules about attacking someone that is grappled/grappling. Can't find anything about the chance to hit the wrong target.
That one has been removed too?
Josh M Foster
Developer
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I was checking the rules about attacking someone that is grappled/grappling. Can't find anything about the chance to hit the wrong target.That one has been removed too?
I believe so. The grapple mechanics have been so revised (for the better in my mind) that this doesn't surprise me, though.
| Bobson |
Slaunyeh wrote:Ravenbow wrote:It isn't written in PF that there is a chance to strike an ally. Striking the cover was a 'feature' in 3.0. It was removed in 3.5 and it hasn't been reintroduced in PF.
Where is it written.. in THIS edition (ie Pathfinder, not AD&D 3.0 3.5 4.0) that firing into melee has a "miss chance" of striking an ally?Isn't that what rolling ones are for?
I was checking the rules about attacking someone that is grappled/grappling. Can't find anything about the chance to hit the wrong target.
That one has been removed too?
Probably. You're no longer occupying the same square as the creature you're grappling with, so there's less of a chance of hitting the wrong creature. Basically, Pathfinder grapple is more a "I'm holding your arm" than "I've got you in a bear hug".