I feel pretty stupid right now...how do I determine a given dragon's caster level? The Bestiary says it depends on the age of the dragon, and I see those that are listed in the three stat'd dragons for each type, but what if I want another age, as listed on the main chart?
I know it's probably something stupid...
I feel pretty stupid right now...how do I determine a given dragon's caster level? The Bestiary says it depends on the age of the dragon, and I see those that are listed in the three stat'd dragons for each type, but what if I want another age, as listed on the main chart?
I know it's probably something stupid...
Spells: A dragon knows and casts arcane spells as a sorcerer of the level indicated in its specific description. Its caster level depends on its age, as shown for each type.
Spell-Like Abilities: A dragon's caster level for its spell-like abilities is equal to its total Hit Dice.
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An example is found here in the table at the top right.
http://www.pathfindersrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/dragons/dragon/chrom atic-black
I feel pretty stupid right now...how do I determine a given dragon's caster level? The Bestiary says it depends on the age of the dragon, and I see those that are listed in the three stat'd dragons for each type, but what if I want another age, as listed on the main chart?
I know it's probably something stupid...
Spells: A dragon knows and casts arcane spells as a sorcerer of the level indicated in its specific description. Its caster level depends on its age, as shown for each type.
Spell-Like Abilities: A dragon's caster level for its spell-like abilities is equal to its total Hit Dice.
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I read that, and it still doesn't make sense. Bestirary page 93, Adult black dragon is CL 3; ancient black is CL11. The former is CR11, the latter CR16. Base CR for the black is 3...so how are those CL's determined? The numbers to the left of the age categories on page 91 don't correspond; and the CR adjustments for the different age ranges, on that same table, don't either. What would be the CL for a black wyrm? Or a very old black? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
There is a table for each dragon type, listing both abilities and caster level by age category. The table for black dragons is on the top right side of page 92. From that, you can see that the caster level for a black wyrm is 13th, while for a very old black the caster level is 9th.
There is a table for each dragon type, listing both abilities and caster level by age category. The table for black dragons is on the top right side of page 92. From that, you can see that the caster level for a black wyrm is 13th, while for a very old black the caster level is 9th.
See? I KNEW I was an idiot of some type! Thanks, Are. Now I go about laying waste to my party of PCs.
I feel pretty stupid right now...how do I determine a given dragon's caster level? The Bestiary says it depends on the age of the dragon, and I see those that are listed in the three stat'd dragons for each type, but what if I want another age, as listed on the main chart?
I know it's probably something stupid...
Spells: A dragon knows and casts arcane spells as a sorcerer of the level indicated in its specific description. Its caster level depends on its age, as shown for each type.
Spell-Like Abilities: A dragon's caster level for its spell-like abilities is equal to its total Hit Dice.
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I read that, and it still doesn't make sense. Bestirary page 93, Adult black dragon is CL 3; ancient black is CL11. The former is CR11, the latter CR16. Base CR for the black is 3...so how are those CL's determined? The numbers to the left of the age categories on page 91 don't correspond; and the CR adjustments for the different age ranges, on that same table, don't either. What would be the CL for a black wyrm? Or a very old black? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I'm not sure they used a mathematical formula. I think that might be why they listed the CL (if any) for every possible age/color combination.
See? I KNEW I was an idiot of some type! Thanks, Are. Now I go about laying waste to my party of PCs.
And in my last hour, I'm a slave to the power of Death. [/Maiden]
While those are the default spell levels and spell suggestions, there is nothing in the rules against giving the dragon different spells and a few levels of Sorcerer...
Nothing messes with meta-gamers like a medium sized white dragon casting high level spells.
Nothing messes with meta-gamers like a medium sized white dragon casting high level spells.Haven't used that tactic in like 3 years, might be time to pull it off the dusty bookshelf again.
Almost did this, PCs were smart enough to not try and fight the dragon.