Reach Mystery metashadow feat and Umbral Touch mystery

[Valgaav]

Can Reach Mystery metashadow feat be applied to Umbral Touch mystery? If it is possible, how Umbral touch mystery will work after that? It is also not clear for me if the description of Umbral Touch's target refers to creature or creatures affected by one of the mystery's charge (and the only possible beneficiary in this case is that mystery's caster) or it is possible to give it's benefit to another person.

[Thomas LeBlanc]

Valgaav wrote:

Can Reach Mystery metashadow feat be applied to Umbral Touch mystery? If it is possible, how Umbral touch mystery will work after that? It is also not clear for me if the description of Umbral Touch's target refers to creature or creatures affected by one of the mystery's charge (and the only possible beneficiary in this case is that mystery's caster) or it is possible to give it's benefit to another person.

Where is this from?

[AvalonXQ]

Sounds like Shadow Magic from the Tome of Magic. I don't have it in front of me, so without rules citations I can't give my opinion.

[Starbuck_II]

Valgaav wrote:

Can Reach Mystery metashadow feat be applied to Umbral Touch mystery? If it is possible, how Umbral touch mystery will work after that? It is also not clear for me if the description of Umbral Touch's target refers to creature or creatures affected by one of the mystery's charge (and the only possible beneficiary in this case is that mystery's caster) or it is possible to give it's benefit to another person.

Yes, but this is the wrong forum. You should be asking in the 3.5 forums (near bottom of messageboards here), this is pathfinder one.

Umbtral Touch is as touch attack. Reach is 1/day make touch into a ranged touch.

You deal damage as normal. So you'd be able to make rays 1 min/lv - 1 min/attack made (deal 5d6, save partial for slow effect).

There is no beneficiary really, you attack people with the spell like Produce Flame (in fact it is basically that spell but slows).
It is very clear, you can make ranged touches instead of just touch attacks now: end of effect, no additional benefit. You are over thinking it.

[Valgaav]

Metashadow Feats and Mysteries originate from D&D 3.5 edition Tome of Magic. I'd found rather interesting conversion variant of shadowcaster class to pathfinder here - http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/redcaps-corner-pathfinder/wikis/shad owcaster and decided to use it in campaing i was going to play. After i had read through misteries' description, i started wondering about how metashadow feat Reach Mystery and mystery Umbral Touch would interact. Neither original source nor pathfinder variant i'd found didn't make this clear. The problem is actually in Umbral Touch mistery - it is absolutely unique. I've never seen a spell, mystery, psionic power or warlock's invocation which is functioning in similar way and at the same time has such description. As far as i can guess, it is something like touch spell with several charges instead of one (although there are touch spells with multiple targets, unlike this mistery, they can't affect same target more than ones and should be discharged at the same round the casting is finished).

[Valgaav]

Starbuck_II wrote:

Valgaav wrote:

Can Reach Mystery metashadow feat be applied to Umbral Touch mystery? If it is possible, how Umbral touch mystery will work after that? It is also not clear for me if the description of Umbral Touch's target refers to creature or creatures affected by one of the mystery's charge (and the only possible beneficiary in this case is that mystery's caster) or it is possible to give it's benefit to another person.

Yes, but this is the wrong forum. You should be asking in the 3.5 forums (near bottom of messageboards here), this is pathfinder one.

Umbtral Touch is as touch attack. Reach is 1/day make touch into a ranged touch.

You deal damage as normal. So you'd be able to make rays 1 min/lv - 1 min/attack made (deal 5d6, save partial for slow effect).

There is no beneficiary really, you attack people with the spell like Produce Flame (in fact it is basically that spell but slows).
It is very clear, you can make ranged touches instead of just touch attacks now: end of effect, no additional benefit. You are over thinking it.

Thanks a lot. It helped very much. And i beg my pardon for posting in the wrong forum - i'll be more attentive next time.