Does an eidolon with the mount evolution need a saddle?


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the book says (Mount (Ex): An eidolon is properly skilled and formed
to serve as a combat-trained mount. The eidolon must
be at least one size category larger than its rider. This
evolution is only available to eidolons of the quadruped
and serpentine base forms.)
i dont think it dose but if it dose will it need an exotic one

Grand Lodge

I could be wrong, but I believe a saddle is not necessary to ride anything that can be a mount. Having a saddle makes it easier though. An eidolon with a saddle would definitely need an exotic one.

prd wrote:
Special: If you are riding bareback, you take a –5 penalty on Ride checks.
prd wrote:

Saddle, Exotic: An exotic saddle is designed for an unusual mount. Exotic saddles come in military, pack, and riding styles.

Saddle, Military: This saddle braces the rider, providing a +2 circumstance bonus on Ride checks related to staying in the saddle. If you're knocked unconscious while in a military saddle, you have a 75% chance to stay in the saddle.

Saddle, Pack: A pack saddle holds gear and supplies, but not a rider. It holds as much gear as the mount can carry.

Saddle, Riding: If you are knocked unconscious while in a riding saddle, you have a 50% chance to stay in the saddle.


ya that was my thought thanks


I'd be inclined to say no, you don't need a saddle, your Summoner is forming the Eidolon to be the perfect mount after all. That's just IMHO though.

This might be something that needs an official ruling, because I can see the argument going either way.

Grand Lodge

If I remember correctly, Bareback riding does or did mean a penalty to ride checks. And if it's going to be an aerial mount, a decreased risk of falling out of the saddle is always a good idea (military saddle)


Agreed that you would normally take a -5 penalty riding bareback (though you can still do it), but personally, I would houserule that the summoner can shape his eidolon well enough to make it comfortable to ride, eliminating the penalty (or at least reducing it to a -2!)

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