Multiplying Damage


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Grand Lodge

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At GenCon and in some of the threads, it has discussed that only the core weapon damage is multiplied on a critical hit or similar action. That would mean that it follows the same basic premise as 4E in that a x2 crit would be 2[W]+modifiers. I understand that "extra damage dice" as in the case of sneak attack, etc would not be multiplied, but why wouldn't the modifiers be multiplied. Page 179 says, "Roll the damage (with all modifiers) multiple times and total the results." That would seem to indicate 2[W+modifiers]. Am I correct?


TwilightKnight wrote:
At GenCon and in some of the threads, it has discussed that only the core weapon damage is multiplied on a critical hit or similar action. That would mean that it follows the same basic premise as 4E in that a x2 crit would be 2[W]+modifiers. I understand that "extra damage dice" as in the case of sneak attack, etc would not be multiplied, but why wouldn't the modifiers be multiplied. Page 179 says, "Roll the damage (with all modifiers) multiple times and total the results." That would seem to indicate 2[W+modifiers]. Am I correct?

You are correct that plus modifiers are multiplied, but not extra dice. For example a Greataxe wielded by an 18Str character does 1d12+6 per hit and it has a x3 multiplier. So on a confirmed critical hit the weapon would do 3d12+18. Just an FYI you don't roll (1d12+6) and multiple by three.

Hope that helps.

Scarab Sages

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The above is correct. As an example, let's pretend they're using a Flaming weapon with Vital Strike (not an improved version, just normal).

Normal Damage: 1d12(Weapon) + 6(Strength) + 1d6(Flaming)
Vital Strike: 2d12(Weapon) + 6(Strength) + 1d6(Flaming)
Normal Critical: 3d12(Weapon) + 18(Strength) + 1d6(Flaming)
Vital Strike Critical: 4d12(Weapon) + 18(Strength) + 1d6(Flaming)

Hope that helps.


The critical also multiplies other non variable numeric damage sources too, such as the damage bonus of a +2 weapon, Inspire Courage, Power attack, and weapon specialization.

So that 4th level fighter (str 16) with a fifth level bard inspiring courage, and power attacking with his specialized +1 Greataxe that criticals would be looking at:

3d12+ 12(str)+ 6(inspire courage 2) + 12(power attack) + 6(specialization) + 3(magic weapon) damage = (6.5x3= 19.5)+38 = 57~60 damage on average

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