Only negative about the spell expertise is that Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus wouldnt apply to them as Spell-like abilities. :(
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Some time ago, a developer stated very clearly that a spell-like ability was treated as a spell in every way except where noted, even going so far as to say that normal metamagic feats would work with them if only they had spell slots.
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Only negative about the spell expertise is that Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus wouldnt apply to them as Spell-like abilities. :(I wouldn't be so sure about that. Some time ago, a developer stated very clearly that a spell-like ability was treated as a spell in every way except where noted, even going so far as to say that normal metamagic feats would work with them if only they had spell slots.
Really? That's odd...them why do they have feats like Empower and Quicken spell-like ability when a normal Empower or Quicken metamagic feat would work?
Is there a reference you can point to for this?
PS: I'm not saying I disbelieve your claim, would simply like to confirm for my own curiosity's sake :)
Only negative about the spell expertise is that Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus wouldnt apply to them as Spell-like abilities. :(I wouldn't be so sure about that. Some time ago, a developer stated very clearly that a spell-like ability was treated as a spell in every way except where noted, even going so far as to say that normal metamagic feats would work with them if only they had spell slots.Really? That's odd...them why do they have feats like Empower and Quicken spell-like ability when a normal Empower or Quicken metamagic feat would work?
Is there a reference you can point to for this?
PS: I'm not saying I disbelieve your claim, would simply like to confirm for my own curiosity's sake :)
I never said they did work with spell-like abilities.
I'll see if I can find the thread, but it was a good long time ago.
EDIT: Found some other posters talking about it, but no developers...YET. I'll keep looking.
Really? That's odd...them why do they have feats like Empower and Quicken spell-like ability when a normal Empower or Quicken metamagic feat would work?
Quicken Spell (Metamagic)You can cast spells in a fraction of the normal time.
Benefit: Casting a quickened spell is a swift action. You can perform another action, even casting another spell, in the same round as you cast a quickened spell. A spell whose casting time is more than 1 full-round action cannot be quickened.
A quickened spell uses up a spell slot four levels higher than the spell's actual level. Casting a quickened spell doesn't provoke an attack of opportunity.
Quickend spell applies only to actual spells, and has mechanics that deals with spell levels.
The monster feat applies to spell-like abilities and has a chart that shows if you can use the feat for your ability based on level as most monsters don't actually have spell levels.