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yes and selling them on an adult website.Does it still have the peanut fart potpourri and the world's largest tube of Preparation H?I knew you were watching me! You've also been secretly recording our conversations haven't you?
My royalties!!! My precious, precious royalties!!!
If you've actually done your research now, you've surely read or heard her correctly referring to North Korea as 'teh bad guys' several times before she made the error. Why is it that the one instance where she made a mistake that gets all the attention.
Look, I'm actually not the one blowing this thing out of proportion, I just thought it was a funny gaffe and wanted to have a little fun on behalf of Mrs. Palin. It really isn't that big a deal. She's made much bigger blunders in the past (and yes, so have lots of Democrats... and I'm sure there'll be more to come, from both Palin and other politicians).
Going into full defensive mode when Palin is made fun of actually speaks more to those "on her side" than my original post.I'm also both heartened and scared that my winky smiley in my OP was noticed. Heartened that someone finally noticed it, scared that it was Sebastian (then again, he's a lawyer, he's supposed to notice such minutae). ;-)
And thanks to Mr. Helt for proving my point here about blowing things out of proportion. ;-)
Sarah Palin is a fun person to... well, make fun of, because she actually holds some, to me, very scary opinions and the best way to "fight" someone like that is with humour and ridicule. Plus, like many a public figure, she's "on" a lot and thus those mistakes we're all prone to make get much more airtime and are more noticeable (cue GaryDee's video, which I haven't clicked on, but I'm guessing it contains screw-ups by Obama).
And for the record, I'm not saying that Obama or any other Democrats don't make (bigger) mistakes, nor is this some kind of "liberal" conspiracy to ridicule the opposition while sweeping "our side's" mistakes under the rug. I didn't vote for Obama (couldn't, not a U.S. citizen), nor would I have voted for him (my vote would have gone to either Gravel, Nader or Kucinich).
Mmmmm.....bacon.
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Going into full defensive mode when Palin is made fun of actually speaks more to those "on her side" than my original post.
I'm actually not in 'defensive mode' at all. Heck, I wasn't even going to bother replying to the topic since I find 'make fun of Sarah Palin' threads to be almost as tiresome as Bush bashing was a few years ago. But when you made the obvious (and yes, understandable) mistake regarding the person interviewing her, the irony was just to tasty to pass up.
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Americans are very defensive about their politics and their politicians... They also tend to rachet things up a notch or to when people from other countiries make fun of their politicans because they are very proud of the democracy that they created through a long and hard struggle and they are also a touch insecure about it as well. Especially the people who have lost elections and are sitting in the wilderness trying to work out how to get back in.
It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries. For example calling Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "Ima Dinnerjacket", or the way they carry on about France, and then they throw a school girl tantrum up when somebody pokes fun at one of their politicians.
btw
You're a Dane?
One of your Princess is an Aussie and she is pushing out more Australians soon Europe will be ours one royal family at a time :-)
stuffAmericans are very defensive about their politics and their politicians... They also tend to rachet things up a notch or to when people from other countiries make fun of their politicans because they are very proud of the democracy that they created through a long and hard struggle and they are also a touch insecure about it as well. Especially the people who have lost elections and are sitting in the wilderness trying to work out how to get back in.
It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries. For example calling Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "Ima Dinnerjacket", or the way they carry on about France, and then they throw a school girl tantrum up when somebody pokes fun at one of their politicians.
Hey GG one of your Princess is ours and she is pushing out more Australians soon Europe will be ours :-)
I really doubt that, old chap. We have enough bar staff now.
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I really doubt that, old chap. We have enough bar staff now.stuffAmericans are very defensive about their politics and their politicians... They also tend to rachet things up a notch or to when people from other countiries make fun of their politicans because they are very proud of the democracy that they created through a long and hard struggle and they are also a touch insecure about it as well. Especially the people who have lost elections and are sitting in the wilderness trying to work out how to get back in.
It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries. For example calling Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "Ima Dinnerjacket", or the way they carry on about France, and then they throw a school girl tantrum up when somebody pokes fun at one of their politicians.
Hey GG one of your Princess is ours and she is pushing out more Australians soon Europe will be ours :-)
Yeah, they're all Greek to me. :P
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stuffAmericans are very defensive about their politics and their politicians... They also tend to rachet things up a notch or to when people from other countiries make fun of their politicans because they are very proud of the democracy that they created through a long and hard struggle and they are also a touch insecure about it as well. Especially the people who have lost elections and are sitting in the wilderness trying to work out how to get back in.
It's not really that.
It's just......EVERYBODY.
Has. An opinion.
"America is sooooooooooo rooted up. Because......"
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"Americans are all blablabla b!+*!!@&s/arrogant/dicks/buttheads/the great satan/whores/I know this from halfway around the worldz coz I haz intehwebz...."
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Like, you're from Australia? I love Australia. I think I'd like to go check it out; low on cash; it's a distant goal.
So, hell; I think I'll read up on it, and once a week start a thread b!~$*ing about something jacked up about Australia?
THEN, I'll get some buddies: let's call them yellowcoyote, giant gentile, myneighborsarewights, and a bunch of other guys to do the same thing.
Week in. Week out.
Once a week.....
"HEY!!! OFF TOPIC!!! LOOK WHAT THOSE STUPID ASS AUSSIES DID TODAY!!!"
THEN,
let's see how tired of it you get.
Is my poking on your forehead bother you yet? It's only 8,700 times. Quit being so defensive!
I really doubt that, old chap. We have enough bar staff now.stuffAmericans are very defensive about their politics and their politicians... They also tend to rachet things up a notch or to when people from other countiries make fun of their politicans because they are very proud of the democracy that they created through a long and hard struggle and they are also a touch insecure about it as well. Especially the people who have lost elections and are sitting in the wilderness trying to work out how to get back in.
It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries. For example calling Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "Ima Dinnerjacket", or the way they carry on about France, and then they throw a school girl tantrum up when somebody pokes fun at one of their politicians.
Hey GG one of your Princess is ours and she is pushing out more Australians soon Europe will be ours :-)
Pubs are the social, intellectual and cultural centre of the Britain. We and our junior allies the Kiwis control them all.... We control your arts institutions see Ms K Minogue, Ms D Minogue, Rolf Harris, your Soaps and Panto.... If we wished we could crush your tiny island, by closing the Pubs mesmerising your populace with Ms Minogues spectacular behind, and driving the rest of you crazy by having Rolf and Danni performing a duet while panto actors danced around them.....
Pubs are the social, intellectual and cultural centre of the Britain. We and our junior allies the Kiwis control them all.... We control your arts institutions see Ms K Minogue, Ms D Minogue, Rolf Harris, your Soaps and Panto.... If we wished we could crush your tiny island, by closing the Pubs mesmerising your populace with Ms Minogues spectacular behind, and driving the rest of you crazy by having Rolf and Danni performing a duet while panto actors danced around them.....I really doubt that, old chap. We have enough bar staff now.stuffAmericans are very defensive about their politics and their politicians... They also tend to rachet things up a notch or to when people from other countiries make fun of their politicans because they are very proud of the democracy that they created through a long and hard struggle and they are also a touch insecure about it as well. Especially the people who have lost elections and are sitting in the wilderness trying to work out how to get back in.
It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries. For example calling Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "Ima Dinnerjacket", or the way they carry on about France, and then they throw a school girl tantrum up when somebody pokes fun at one of their politicians.
Hey GG one of your Princess is ours and she is pushing out more Australians soon Europe will be ours :-)
You fiend! Your antipodean plot shall never succeed. Never, do you hear me? Wait, you did say Ms Minogue's shapely behind? Hmmm. Perhaps we can come to a deal, me old mucker. Let bygones be bygones and all that. We'll even stop our brave eleven giving your boys the thrashing they deserve in the second half of the Test. What do you say?
Good point
Thing is the US is the biggest glitziest fish in the pond...
Everybody in the world can see you... All the noise made in the US is broadcast around the world. When ever you move it causes ripples and effects all of the of the other fish.
Like they say "With great power there comes a great big never-ending overflowing bucket of shit that you have to deal with so suck it up and look for ways of dealing with it".
So yeh we feel that we have the right to poke our nose in your business because you are happy to put your business up on the wolrd stage for us to comment on....and more often than not it will effect us the rest of the world.
As for making fun of Australia.....go for it I do it all the time about both sides of politics and Australia in general. I have no problem at good natured fun or an insightful poke at our political process.
Kettle, meet Pot. Pot, this is Kettle.It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries.
Pot has Hollywood...... bigger effect bigger impact.
Grovelling because he knows the futility of resistance
Only if you allow us to reverse transport Ricky Ponting.
Grovelling because he knows the futility of resistanceOnly if you allow us to reverse transport Ricky Ponting.
If you take back Dannii but leave Kylie, we'll consider it.
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As for making fun of Australia.....go for it I do it all the time about both sides of politics and Australia in general. I have no problem at good natured fun or an insightful poke at our political process.
See, the thing is, I wouldn't have to just whinge a little bit here and there for you to get the full frontal effect.
Every week, three or four guys flinging monkeypoo at Australia, over and over again, for years and years and years,sometimes even saying stuff like "HEY! EVERYBODY IN TEXAS IS DIEING OF SWINE FLU!!! HAHAHAHAHA! OH, NO SENSE OF HUMOR ABOUT IT? WHAT, DOES YOUR 18 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER HAVE A 103 F FEVER FROM THE SWINE FLU FOR THREE DAYS? WELL, SERVES YOU RIGHT!!! YOU'RE A F@~&ING ARROGANT ASS BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE CENTIGRADE!!!"
Just jokes, man. Get a sense of humor for gosh sakes!
The extent I would have to do it is probably beyond me, for one reason or the other.
I think the problem is that you're painting the issue with an awfully broad brush. SOME Americans will criticize other countries, but not all will. SOME people in foreign countries will criticize America, but not all will.
I will concede that my bush is indeed broad :-). Unfortunately the ignorant tend to be the loudest, the most persistent and aggressive. They are more than happy to bash away at others and scream and shout when someone says something bad about them.
I will go as far to say all people around the world will criticise the US although it is proportion to how it effects their lives.. Also a lot of people will give thanks for the US and the help that the US rendered them in their time of need as well....
With out the US it would have been just us the Kiwis and a few Dutch fighting the pacific war. There were not enough of us to do so successfully considering at the time there was something the total population of Australia was around 10 million and it was spread across a continent the size of the USA.
So in return.... Every major conflict you have engaged in since there will be Australians fighting by your side...
So don't ever think we are ungrateful.
As for making fun of Australia.....go for it I do it all the time about both sides of politics and Australia in general. I have no problem at good natured fun or an insightful poke at our political process.See, the thing is, I wouldn't have to just whinge a little bit here and there for you to get the full frontal effect.
Every week, three or four guys flinging monkeypoo at Australia, over and over again, for years and years and years,
sometimes even saying stuff like "HEY! EVERYBODY IN TEXAS IS DIEING OF SWINE FLU!!! HAHAHAHAHA! OH, NO SENSE OF HUMOR ABOUT IT? WHAT, DOES YOUR 18 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER HAVE A 103 F FEVER FROM THE SWINE FLU FOR THREE DAYS? WELL, SERVES YOU RIGHT!!! YOU'RE A f!*#ING ARROGANT ASS BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE CENTIGRADE!!!"Just jokes, man. Get a sense of humor for gosh sakes!
The extent I would have to do it is probably beyond me, for one reason or the other.
Look I can see where you are coming from... There is a difference between insulting the US and making fun...
I can also understand why some people have an irrational deep and un-abiding hatred for the US... I have a lot of Palestinian and Lebanese friends. I understand why they hate and love the US at the same time....
I understand why the French do everything possible to be insulting and annoying to you.
We have similar relationships with Indonesia, Malaysia, Fiji... Just not on the same scale... but here are people there that hate Australia for a lot of reasons and some of those reasons are valid.
Australia is a little fish but it is open for constant criticism and a lot of it is warranted. In our region we are considered relics of white colonialism, until the 1960's there was a racist immigration legislation, we have attempted genocide against our native population and didn't consider them citizens until the 60's. We have made a massive environmental disaster of our country. We bully and order smaller nations around, we exploit resources in other countries where we can. We have destabilised and attempted regime change in countries when we didn't like the politics. Illegal immigrants are imprisoned either and until recently it was in facilities in the dessert.
We have been accused of being George Bushes Deputy Sheriff and enforcing US policy.
We are also the first in when aid is needed... even if there has been hostility, we help with development of nations around the pacific and Southeast Asia.. We do a lot of good... Mainly our neighbours remember us for the bad and we have to deal with it.
Then why do we keep ending up with Mel Gibson movies? >:(Pot has Hollywood...... bigger effect bigger impact.Kettle, meet Pot. Pot, this is Kettle.It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries.
Mel was born in the US his father moved to Australia so his kids wouldn't get drafted when they came of age.
I don't think you're ungrateful. To be honest, I don't hear many Americans ever criticizing Australia at all.
I think the problem is that you're painting the issue with an awfully broad brush. SOME Americans will criticize other countries, but not all will. SOME people in foreign countries will criticize America, but not all will.I will concede that my bush is indeed broad :-). Unfortunately the ignorant tend to be the loudest, the most persistent and aggressive. They are more than happy to bash away at others and scream and shout when someone says something bad about them.
I will go as far to say all people around the world will criticise the US although it is proportion to how it effects their lives.. Also a lot of people will give thanks for the US and the help that the US rendered them in their time of need as well....
With out the US it would have been just us the Kiwis and a few Dutch fighting the pacific war. There were not enough of us to do so successfully considering at the time there was something the total population of Australia was around 10 million and it was spread across a continent the size of the USA.
So in return.... Every major conflict you have engaged in since there will be Australians fighting by your side...
So don't ever think we are ungrateful.
Because we are not world shatteringly important like North Korea or Europe or India...
When Americans criticise us it is reported, because it is America and American opinion is important.... Usually its celebs like Pink who have no clue and mouth stuff the stuff the cause du jour
tells them to.
If you take back Dannii but leave Kylie, we'll consider it.Grovelling because he knows the futility of resistanceOnly if you allow us to reverse transport Ricky Ponting.
Please, please give us Kylie.
Please, please give us Kylie.If you take back Dannii but leave Kylie, we'll consider it.Grovelling because he knows the futility of resistanceOnly if you allow us to reverse transport Ricky Ponting.
If you want Kylie you have to Keep Danni, Johnno Colman, and Rolf you also have to take Ricky Ponting, and Kyle Sanderlands.
If you want Kylie you have to Keep Danni, Johnno Colman, and Rolf you also have to take Ricky Ponting, and Kyle Sanderlands.Please, please give us Kylie.If you take back Dannii but leave Kylie, we'll consider it.Grovelling because he knows the futility of resistanceOnly if you allow us to reverse transport Ricky Ponting.
I shouldn't have shown my hand. Now you want to up the ante. :(
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Mel was born in the US his father moved to Australia so his kids wouldn't get drafted when they came of age.Then why do we keep ending up with Mel Gibson movies? >:(Pot has Hollywood...... bigger effect bigger impact.Kettle, meet Pot. Pot, this is Kettle.It is a little annoying that they feel that they can stereotype, dismiss, ignore and make fun of other countries.
I guess that explains his thick New York accent. ;)
Usually its celebs like PinkWho??
Look, America's got a ton of celebrities. The overwhelming majority of them have absolutely nothing of value to offer in terms of political opinion.
Ignore them. We do.
Its scale - a Celeb in Australia has an audience of 20 million at the most... And only Kylie Minogue, The Wiggles and maybe Hugh Jackman can command that amount of listening power....
Pink on the other-hand has a potential audience of 250 million Americans + a world wide following... She wields a lot of power ... She says no don't buy Australian Lamb or wool and then it stops getting sold in the US and Europe and bam a lot of Australians are out of work.
If the Wiggles did the same thing about an American product - it would have almost zero effect on the US and finish the Wiggles as entertainers.
As for making fun of Australia.....go for it I do it all the time about both sides of politics and Australia in general. I have no problem at good natured fun or an insightful poke at our political process.See, the thing is, I wouldn't have to just whinge a little bit here and there for you to get the full frontal effect.
Every week, three or four guys flinging monkeypoo at Australia, over and over again, for years and years and years,
sometimes even saying stuff like "HEY! EVERYBODY IN TEXAS IS DIEING OF SWINE FLU!!! HAHAHAHAHA! OH, NO SENSE OF HUMOR ABOUT IT? WHAT, DOES YOUR 18 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER HAVE A 103 F FEVER FROM THE SWINE FLU FOR THREE DAYS? WELL, SERVES YOU RIGHT!!! YOU'RE A f###ING ARROGANT ASS BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE CENTIGRADE!!!"Just jokes, man. Get a sense of humor for gosh sakes!
The extent I would have to do it is probably beyond me, for one reason or the other.
I am still not sure about the jist of this post... and its bothering me, If I have offended you I am sorry.
I am more than happy defend the rights of others to freely criticise even if I dissagree with it. As long as they understand that I have the right to tell them that they are stupid, wrong and are dickheads.
As I understand they have the same right to think and say the same thing about me.
So if the right is upset because the left makes them out to be stupid and the left is upset because the right makes them out to be ineffectual traitors... Well boo hoo you are in politics....
Usually its celebs like PinkWho??
Look, America's got a ton of celebrities. The overwhelming majority of them have absolutely nothing of value to offer in terms of political opinion.
Ignore them. We do.
Its scale - a Celeb in Australia has an audience of 20 million at the most... And only Kylie Minogue, The Wiggles and maybe Hugh Jackman can command that amount of listening power....
Pink on the other-hand has a potential audience of 250 million Americans + a world wide following... She wields a lot of power ... She says no don't buy Australian Lamb or wool and then it stops getting sold in the US and Europe and bam a lot of Australians are out of work.
If the Wiggles did the same thing about an American product - it would have almost zero effect on the US and finish the Wiggles as entertainers.
I don't think you're grasping how many celebrities America has - or how many Pink has to share it with. Her mindshare is -very- small. In fact, I can't remember the last time I thought of her.
She has freedom of speech which will be defended, but that doesn't mean anyone is listening.
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It's redundant; the proper English term would simply be inspire or reinvigorate. "Reinspire" isn't technically standard English terminology so it technically does not exist by Oxford English standard.What's wrong with reinspire, Jeremy? Don't make me pull out a dictionary. You wouldn't like me with a dictionary in my hand.even if they reinspire a national economy, win the cold war, or can allegedly steal an entire election.Sorry as a liberal I decided to ignore your speech, but I did take the time to point out your spelling mistakes. Have a good day :)
Tried to fix it for you but this last response was a bit of a mess.
Okay. For 'reinspire' I get 66,000 Google hits. For 'reinvigorate' I get 965,000 Google hits. However, languages change. In 1969, 44% of the American Heritage Dictionary usage panel would have disagreed with your usage of 'hopefully' as an adverb meaning 'to be hoped' in the following:
Hey CJ do you think it's time for me to come up with another long ridiculous, partially offensive conspiracy ramble to hopefully kill a few of the political threads?
Also:
I don't think it'll do much but I just started a thread to hopefully stop all the political crap.
I'm pretty sure all of them would have disagreed with your split infinitives.
These days, only 27% would call you on this usage and even the Oxford considers it acceptable to boldly split what it said should never have been split before.
I'm pretty sure all of them would have disagreed with your split infinitives.
Grrr... You can split infinitives in English. You can't do it in Latin, and that was why it was suggested grammarians avoid such usage in English, for some reason. That this has become a de facto rule of English aggravates me to no end.
I'm staunchly with the "living language" camp in these matters. Those who claim it is not a word if it is absent from the dictionary know precious little about how dictionaries are made. The OED especially. An unabridged dictionary is like a comprehensive map; if you encounter a building in real life that is not on the map, it is nevertheless a real building.
As for the thread topic, I despise everything Palin represents, but she gets a pass on this one. It was a slip up. Sure, it underscores her gross incompetence in foreign policy, but I don't think it actually matters with respect to her prospects. I'm still allowed to laugh, though.
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All liberals smell funny and are dumb. You can tell they are dumb because they all say conservatives are dumb.I find it personally offensive that you'd just reject what I actually said in favor of something you wish I'd said, and then accuse me of commiting a straw man. Maybe I missed the sarcasm.
You'll never find me saying all liberals are stupid, nor anything else. My actual comments should be allowed to represent my comments and not a grotesque mischaracterization of them.
It is factually accurate that liberals have given passes to celebrity politicians for microphone gaffs they'd call conservatives morons over. Is that not the salient point fo the thread? Because while I covet the friendship of everyone here, it would seem your reaction is egregiously unfriendly.
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Mr. Helt, are you
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2)a U.S. citizen and
3)can you speak 100% mistake free in public even when exhausted from going on 3 hours of sleep a night for 4 days and flying about 15,000 miles on Air Force One?Cuz, I'll vote for you.....
Regrettably, I am over 35. Proudly I am a US citizen, and I am not sure I can speak 100% mistake free in public on a full night's rest and talking about my favorite character with a teleprompter. But I dig conservative values and can probably speak 90% mistake free under tough circumstances. And if I screw up, I can make a classy but self-effacing jokes before moving on. Close?
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There's very little doubt I'm a terrible typist with a ghetto keyboard. Aside from you just ignoring a response, please note I'm not out to insult all liberals (weird, that reaction from you folk, I don't often see the disqualifier, "I know all conservatives aren't like this, but...". Usually I just see talk about all the Beck-worshipping racists...
So..maybe you don't jump on ridiculous small points, like accidentally saying North Korea once out of 50. Or maybe you preferred to actually talk about the merits of flaws of HR3200 ahving read part of it, rather than jsut calling tea partiers bigots and saying we were against HCR because the president was black. But you can't deny a lot of that is out there, and please understand I have a beef with that kind of liberal argumentation, and not every individual liberal out there.
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There's very little doubt I'm a terrible typist with a ghetto keyboard. Aside from you just ignoring a response, please note I'm not out to insult all liberals (weird, that reaction from you folk, I don't often see the disqualifier, "I know all conservatives aren't like this, but...". Usually I just see talk about all the Beck-worshipping racists...
So..maybe you don't jump on ridiculous small points, like accidentally saying North Korea once out of 50. Or maybe you preferred to actually talk about the merits of flaws of HR3200 ahving read part of it, rather than jsut calling tea partiers bigots and saying we were against HCR because the president was black. But you can't deny a lot of that is out there, and please understand I have a beef with that kind of liberal argumentation, and not every individual liberal out there.
I was actually attempting to be sarcastic. But I guess tone isn't conveyed very well with text.
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Liberal expression of fear is to call what they are afraid of stupid, and to excuse true ignorance from bad liars as 'nuance'. Palin very clearly says North one time when she means South. Insofar as anyone from this site cold make that same mistake, it's a total nonissue. The fact that someone could try to make it an issue demonstrates that finding a way to insult Palin is more important to them than listening to a whole interview to really find out what she thinks.I'm a liberal and I was on your side of this debate. Thanks for generalizing.
That's like saying, "Conservative expression of fear is to call what they are afraid of unAmerican, unpatriotic, and treasonous." I could find evidence to support a weaker version of statement but I'd be an a!!&~~& to make the stronger version.
Again, I don't mean all liberals. Reasonable folk of all dispositions are welcome. : }
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