Archetypes and PFS


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Liberty's Edge

Hello all,
I am returning to PFS after a 5~6 month sabbatical, and I am extremely excited about the new archetype system in the APG. However, there are a few things that I do not understand, especially in relation to PFS play.

1. Can a PFS character use multiple archetypes for the same core class, so long as the abilities from each archetype do not replace the same core class abilities?

Example: The Drunken Master and Sacred Mountain archetypes for the Monk core class each replaces different core abilities. Can I play a Drunken Master of the Sacred Mountain?

2. If the answer to #1 is yes, can a character use two archetypes that replace the same core class ability with the same archetype ability?

Example: The Hospialer and Sacred Servant archetypes replace different Paladin core class abilities, except both archetypes modify the paladin's Smite Evil from +1 per day/2 class levels to +1 per day/4 class levels. Can I play a Super Holy Healer of Sarenrae?

3. If a character multiclasses, can I take archetypes for each class?

Ex: A Savage Skald 2/ Elemental Kin 1 instead of a Bard 2/Barbarian 1.

Thanks in advance for your answers!

The Exchange 2/5

Since these questions are not PFS specific, they would be best answered in the rules forum. You should probably try there first. More than likely, what ever is ruled there, would be the rule here.


For this, PFS rules are the same as the rules in the APG.

1: Yes, you can have more than one archetype so long as you qualify and they do not violate #2.

2: No, the same core ability cannot be replaced by multiple archetypes as per page 72 of the APG.

3: Yes, all archetypes must be chosen at 1st level of a class, however being the original class or an additional class added later through multi-classing does not matter so long as it is the first level of the class being modified.

One other note, the one option that was allowed for PFS that is not how it works in the APG is if you have a PFS character and you want to switch from core to archetype, you can do this so long as the character is still a low enough level as to not have gotten any of the alternate abilities yet.

*pokes Shieldknight* There, the last bit made it PFS relevant as well. ;-)

Liberty's Edge

Thanks Enevhar! that clears everything up.

*gleefully rubs hands together at all the new options*

The Exchange 2/5

Enevhar Aldarion wrote:


*pokes Shieldknight* There, the last bit made it PFS relevant as well. ;-)

:-p

The Exchange 4/5 Owner - D20 Hobbies

Denwar wrote:

1) multiple archetypes for the same core class

3. If a character multiclasses, can I take archetypes for each class?

1) Yes APG p72

3) Yes

Scarab Sages

Enevhar Aldarion wrote:

For this, PFS rules are the same as the rules in the APG.

One other note, the one option that was allowed for PFS that is not how it works in the APG is if you have a PFS character and you want to switch from core to archetype, you can do this so long as the character is still a low enough level as to not have gotten any of the alternate abilities yet.

Where did you find this ruling? On some page of the PFSGOP I presume?

Grand Lodge 4/5

Vixeryz wrote:
Where did you find this ruling? On some page of the PFSGOP I presume?

Yep, in the character creation section (emphasis mine):

GtPSOP v4.2, page 8 wrote:
If you wish to apply a legal archetype to your character, you may do so at 1st level as normal. Additionally, you may apply an archetype to an existing class any time you level up as long as the first alternate ability does not replace an ability granted at a previous level.

Scarab Sages

you wrote it?

Grand Lodge 4/5

No, and I didn't claim to. "Emphasis mine" means I added the emphasis to the original quoted text.

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