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Permanency states that "[you] first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell." I interpreted this to mean that the caster of Permanency must be the caster of the spell to be made permanent. ("You.")
However, Permanency is sorc/wizard only, and some of the spells it specifically lists aren't available to sorc/wizards. Does this mean they qualify for Permanency only to multi-class casters, or can another caster provide the original spell, or can it be cast from scroll with UMD?
I personally as a GM rule that any spell can have permanency cast on it, regardless of who cast it. My players soon learned to be very careful of what spell it was, where it was, and its full effect. Because nothing sucks worse than not fully thinking about the repurcusions of an action and having it bite you in the hind end because you thought something was going to be really cool, but you forgot the the meaning of permanent or the full spell effects of what your making permanent.
Pc got surprised when his char had a heart attack from having Haste on him for too long. almost a shame he had such a high con, good cardio i guess. >_<
so "let them do it then screw them with it without warning them before hand".
Nice.
Next DM please!.
Some spells can be cast on the person by the person for the person.
Some spells can be cast on others, or on objects. Those two, imo, can be divine spells.. but not the "on you only".
Just my .02 on it though.
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so "let them do it then screw them with it without warning them before hand".
Nice.
Next DM please!.
Some spells can be cast on the person by the person for the person.
Some spells can be cast on others, or on objects. Those two, imo, can be divine spells.. but not the "on you only".
Just my .02 on it though.
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Hey I gave him almost an ingame week that was fairly busy, and gave him plenty of chances to realize what he was doing. when i rolled percentage on how close he was and i get a 100. yes hes getting a heart attack. He's lucky the local cleric saw an outbreak of this a few years back and was able to treat him and get rid of the haste. he was warned and i worked up to the roll. It was a neat thing to do so i let him play with it for a bit, i'm not going to kill off a char like that.
besides he did it again a couple months later, but had it on for two days instead of going longer. might just give him that cardio bonus for thinking about his health.
Permanency states that "[you] first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell." I interpreted this to mean that the caster of Permanency must be the caster of the spell to be made permanent. ("You.")
However, Permanency is sorc/wizard only, and some of the spells it specifically lists aren't available to sorc/wizards. Does this mean they qualify for Permanency only to multi-class casters, or can another caster provide the original spell, or can it be cast from scroll with UMD?
True. But remember that wizard can use Wish or Limited Wish to duplicate the effect of some spell from other classes.
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Does this mean they qualify for Permanency only to multi-class casters, or can another caster provide the original spell, or can it be cast from scroll with UMD?
By RAW only if they cast it or if casted from a Scroll (with UMD or caster level check if you have that spell on a Divine spell list.)
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Permanency states that "[you] first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell." I interpreted this to mean that the caster of Permanency must be the caster of the spell to be made permanent. ("You.")
However, Permanency is sorc/wizard only, and some of the spells it specifically lists aren't available to sorc/wizards. Does this mean they qualify for Permanency only to multi-class casters, or can another caster provide the original spell, or can it be cast from scroll with UMD?
True. But remember that wizard can use Wish or Limited Wish to duplicate the effect of some spell from other classes.
Good point. In fact, it looks as if two limited wishes could duplicate a permanent greater magic fang without any trouble.