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Rhino Hide is magical armor with some interesting properties:
In addition to granting a +2 enhancement bonus to AC, it has a –1 armor check penalty and deals an additional 2d6 points of damage on any successful charge attack made by the wearer
I'm wondering whether it's possible to purchase barding for your animal with magical properties, in other words rhino hide barding? Would it cost the same as rhino hide magical armor?
Assuming you had a 7th level druid with tiger animal companion, it would be quite a boost to its attacks. You would have to spend 2 of the companion's 3 feats on selecting light armor proficiency then medium armor proficiency.
The last part of my question is how many of the tiger's attacks would the additional 2d6 damage apply to when it pounces? The pounce ability allows your tiger to do a full attack when it charges. That means its bite attack, 2 claw attacks and possible rake attacks as well might be entitled to the bonus damage. Could anyone shed some light on all this.
| Cult of Vorg |
To my knowledge there has not been a resolution to the argument on whether or not you can customize unique magic items. So, if you can do rhino hide armor, you can do a luckblade khopesh, or a sunblade glaive, just gotta parse out the cost.
Don't know about the charge damage, I'd have to interpret that as RAI one attack but RAW all pounce attacks...
| Rathendar |
Rhino Hide is magical armor with some interesting properties:
In addition to granting a +2 enhancement bonus to AC, it has a –1 armor check penalty and deals an additional 2d6 points of damage on any successful charge attack made by the wearer
I'm wondering whether it's possible to purchase barding for your animal with magical properties, in other words rhino hide barding? Would it cost the same as rhino hide magical armor?
Assuming you had a 7th level druid with tiger animal companion, it would be quite a boost to its attacks. You would have to spend 2 of the companion's 3 feats on selecting light armor proficiency then medium armor proficiency.
The last part of my question is how many of the tiger's attacks would the additional 2d6 damage apply to when it pounces? The pounce ability allows your tiger to do a full attack when it charges. That means its bite attack, 2 claw attacks and possible rake attacks as well might be entitled to the bonus damage. Could anyone shed some light on all this.
Unsure on the PF mechanic, but i believe in 3.5 Rhino Hide worked on the Powerful Charge feat chain/idea, in which the bonus damage was applied to the first attack only, even if you got multiples through Pounce.
As to if 'Rhino Hide' barding is possible for your animal companion? yeah, i'd say sure to that, barding is just normal armor with a purchase/crafting cost modifier.
| Tanis |
If you pay the amount listed for Rhino Hide armor and add the cost for barding (eliminating the difficulty of parsing exactly how much it should cost as an enchantment) I'd say go with it.
And I'd say it only applies once as it does not say per attack.
I'd contend that that's because it is going off the standard charge - 1 attack.
More likely is that the Pounce ability wasn't taken into account - otherwise it would say 'this extra damage applies to the first attack only on a charge'.
YuenglingDragon
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I'd contend that that's because it is going off the standard charge - 1 attack.
More likely is that the Pounce ability wasn't taken into account - otherwise it would say 'this extra damage applies to the first attack only on a charge'.
Maybe you're right. It would be wildly powerful to allow it to apply to every attack, though, especially with Barbarians having access to Pounce now.
Ceefood
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I think an animal companion wearing this armour (if a DM allowed it) would grant 2D6 per attack if it made a charge attack & had pounce
1) rhino hide add 2D6 to any succesful charge attack
2) corerule book explains how to make a charge attack
2) bestiary allows a monster with pounce making a charge attack to use a full attack as the charge attack - this includes rake attack
just my reading of the rules
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yes you can make Rhino Hide armor for animals, just costs a little more. Twice the cost for medium, four times for large creature. So +15 gold for medium animal rhino hide, or +45gp for large rhino hide.
Medium 5,180gp, large sized 5,210gp.
This +2 hide armor is made from rhinoceros hide. In addition to granting a +2 enhancement bonus to AC, it has a –1 armor check penalty and deals an additional 2d6 points of damage on any successful charge attack made by the wearer, including a mounted charge.
Pounce (Ex) When a creature with this special attack makes a charge, it can make a full attack (including rake attacks if the creature also has the rake ability).
It clearly states on any successful charge attack, not on a successful charge attack. The "any" instead of "a" implies it does not matter the type of charge attack, but that it is a charge attack.
Pounce states that a creature with it can make a full attack as its charge.
Therefore a creature with pounce when it charges and makes a full attack each attack is considered a charge attack and therefore gets the +2d6 damage on EACH attack
| vip00 |
It's clear that by RAW, it would apply on every attack of the charge. However, since it's based on the ability of the RHINO, which gets a single attack on its charge; as well as the fact that it would wildly overpower the animal companion, lead me to believe that the RAI would have the damage added only on the first attack.