Smoke Arrow vs. Invisible Opponent


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If I fire a smoke arrow at an invisible opponent, hits and does damage, does my opponent lose the effect of invisibility? Does the smoke disappear? Does the opponent still gain the benefit of Total Concealment?

-Swiftbrook


Swiftbrook wrote:

If I fire a smoke arrow at an invisible opponent, hits and does damage, does my opponent lose the effect of invisibility? Does the smoke disappear? Does the opponent still gain the benefit of Total Concealment?

-Swiftbrook

This is something only your DM can answer. While you can derive and extrapolate how/where an arrow lands, hits, or wounds an opponent in the core rules, it's really not precise and is (purposely) left very open to interpretation. Some people like the idea of 3 points of damage impaling someone. To some players and DMs, a minor scratch like that may have hit the target, but it could have been a glancing blow, leaving the arrow flying thirty yards past the mark.

Basically, ask your DM. He might say it has no additional effect, he might allow you to essentially mark the square the opponent is in, or, if he's super, super generous, he may even allow the smoke combined with the invisibility to work similarly to other invisibility effects within non-solid objects (that is, the miss chance drops to 20%).

Good luck.


Absent specific language of the arrow to the contrary, it shouldn't be allowed to dispel any ongoing effect- including invisibility.

That being said- a lantern bearer who is invisible still sheds light.. so a "smoke arrow" stuck person probably still "smokes". I'd still give him concealment- if not full concealment- because you don't know Where the arrow stuck it.

And, probably a move action to ditch the arrow (by the person stuck).
thats just pure houserule though :)

-S


I think the smoke gives the square away, but that is all.


That's assuming the DM allows the creature being attacked to be impaled by the arrow, or even anything greater than a glancing blow. This doesn't necessarily make sense in all cases, especially with low damage on a high health creature.

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If the DM allows it to be stuck in the creature then you would know the square the creature is in, but it still has total concealment (50% miss chance). You just have an easier time pin pointing it.

To get it to stick us sovereign glue on the tip of the arrow. Or put some on a sun rod and touch it to the invisible guy. Follow the glowing light to attack the creature.

On the cheap tangle foot bag and sun rod for the poor man's version that can be removed, but with sovereign glue it is a lot harder to get rid of it.

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