
Freehold DM |

Freehold DM wrote:I believe a few friends of mine are going.Why aren't you going with them? If I knew anyone going, I'd be trying to roadtrip, granted I probably couldn't afford to miss the work either way.
I just can't squeeze the time off work. I realize it's a short trip from NY to DC, but since I took time off for Comic-Con and I plan to take time off for Halloween Parade(going as Louis from L4D, need to order an airsoft pistol), I just can't squeeze this in too. Will be there in spirit, though.

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I know if I could afford a trip from florida to DC I'd be going right now. but alas I can't, so I was wondering if any Paizites intend to attend?
No. Keep Fear Alive!

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lastknightleft wrote:I know if I could afford a trip from florida to DC I'd be going right now. but alas I can't, so I was wondering if any Paizites intend to attend?No. Keep Fear Alive!
Thanks but while I'm a fan of Colbert too, I actually appreciate the idea of being a fair minded centrist and restoring sanity/shutting up the overzealous bipartisanship that is making it impossible to have actual discussion in our politics, rather than just making a play towards our countries love of irony.
Remember though, while we disagree I'm pretty sure you're not a nazi.

mandisaw |

You should feel bad! All those rich folk paying good money so other people can attend, and you didn't get in on that action!
Actually me and the SO were trying to get in on the HuffPost bus, but missed the unannounced Oct. 8 deadline *sadness*. Amtrak is viciously overpriced for the DC-NYC trip that weekend (unless you travel at 3am), and the Greyhound/dollar/Chinatown buses are all booked-up. So we'll be watching the Comedy Central simulcast, I think.
But a lot of folks in other regions/cities who can't make it to the rally are doing side rallies or viewing parties - rallymao.com. So if you're in the spirit, but can't make it, you could try that.

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Freehold DM wrote:You should feel bad! All those rich folk paying good money so other people can attend, and you didn't get in on that action! Shame on you! To make up for it, send me money, and I'll go in your place!DeathQuaker wrote:I'm going.DAMMIT! Now I feel bad for not going.. :-(
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but no one's paying ME to attend I can tell you that much. Just using ye olde public transport to get there.

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Creepy Puppet wrote:You should feel bad! All those rich folk paying good money so other people can attend, and you didn't get in on that action!Actually me and the SO were trying to get in on the HuffPost bus, but missed the unannounced Oct. 8 deadline *sadness*. Amtrak is viciously overpriced for the DC-NYC trip that weekend (unless you travel at 3am), and the Greyhound/dollar/Chinatown buses are all booked-up. So we'll be watching the Comedy Central simulcast, I think.
But a lot of folks in other regions/cities who can't make it to the rally are doing side rallies or viewing parties - rallymao.com. So if you're in the spirit, but can't make it, you could try that.
Thanks for the link, I'll probably look into it, but I think I just volunteered to help with my church that night, so I don't know if i'll be able to even watch the friggen simulcast, If not I'll just leave the TV on at my house so that the ratings say I was watching.

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lastknightleft wrote:If not I'll just leave the TV on at my house so that the ratings say I was watching.Whoa dude! That's not very ecologically friendly. Don't waste energy man! Love your Mother Earth.
Heh, as often as my wife leaves the TV on accidentally, I think that doing it once in my life intentionally is okay.

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Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.

Beercifer |

Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.
Sorry for your loss. The tea party seems to have the ring at the moment and after Pelosi loses her day job, I think you'll get it back.

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Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.
Actually, that's changed over the years if what I've read is true, ratings used to work that way, but technology has advanced and now they can actually tell what you're watching and get figures directly from satelite and cable providers.

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DeathQuaker wrote:Actually, that's changed over the years if what I've read is true, ratings used to work that way, but technology has advanced and now they can actually tell what you're watching and get figures directly from satelite and cable providers.Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.
If you have satellite or cable. :) But you may be right, they may gather their data differently than they used to. I think they still do poll viewers. Also, there is a difference between Nielsen ratings and stuff like TiVo/cable tracking. They produce different sets of statistics, I think.
Beercifer, what loss? I met wonderful people from all walks of life, all political affiliations, from all over the country and had a good time. Everyone was very nice to each other. I'd like to see that in the world more often, and I hope this builds a trend of civility. I feel like I left having gained quite a great deal. :)

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lastknightleft wrote:DeathQuaker wrote:Actually, that's changed over the years if what I've read is true, ratings used to work that way, but technology has advanced and now they can actually tell what you're watching and get figures directly from satelite and cable providers.Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.
If you have satellite or cable. :) But you may be right, they may gather their data differently than they used to. I think they still do poll viewers. Also, there is a difference between Nielsen ratings and stuff like TiVo/cable tracking. They produce different sets of statistics, I think.
Beercifer, what loss? I met wonderful people from all walks of life, all political affiliations, from all over the country and had a good time. Everyone was very nice to each other. I'd like to see that in the world more often, and I hope this builds a trend of civility. I feel like I left having gained quite a great deal. :)
Yeah I can't wait to watch their live election coverage tonight.

Beercifer |

Beercifer, what loss? I met wonderful people from all walks of life, all political affiliations, from all over the country and had a good time. Everyone was very nice to each other. I'd like to see that in the world more often, and I hope this builds a trend of civility. I feel like I left having gained quite a great deal. :)
I'm referring to the loss of the House. I guessed it would be like this, a landslide in the Reps with almost tie in Senate. While I actually prefer the ideas of the Tea Party, I would rather see someone like Reagan than Palin leading the GOP. Reagan was fantastic imo, and his speeches during the Goldwater era paved the way for his own success a decade later.
The worst problem about rallies in DC is that often after a large left leaning get together, many of the organizers do not clean up afterwards. I don't know about how yours was, as I worked all weekend and haven't the time to youtube info about what was said and stated at the latest rally. The ones on the right are absolutely militant about getting their gear picked up and making the grounds look pristine.

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DeathQuaker wrote:Beercifer, what loss? I met wonderful people from all walks of life, all political affiliations, from all over the country and had a good time. Everyone was very nice to each other. I'd like to see that in the world more often, and I hope this builds a trend of civility. I feel like I left having gained quite a great deal. :)I'm referring to the loss of the House. I guessed it would be like this, a landslide in the Reps with almost tie in Senate. While I actually prefer the ideas of the Tea Party, I would rather see someone like Reagan than Palin leading the GOP. Reagan was fantastic imo, and his speeches during the Goldwater era paved the way for his own success a decade later.
I don't see what that has to do with a rally about restoring civil political discourse and protesting sensationalist media, liberal and conservative alike.
Not to mention, the House hadn't been lost yet when you made that post (though its happening was unsurprising). And I still don't know why you directed the comment toward me specifically, since I've made no statements about my political affiliation or the election since I've been posting here. I just wanted to say I had a good time, not start a political argument.
The worst problem about rallies in DC is that often after a large left leaning get together, many of the organizers do not clean up afterwards. I don't know about how yours was, as I worked all weekend and haven't the time to youtube info about what was said and stated at the latest rally. The ones on the right are absolutely militant about getting their gear picked up and making the grounds look pristine.
I know nothing about past rally precedents, but all proceeds of money raised during the rally (via donations and merchandise sold) went to the Trust for the National Mall, to promote its clean and safe upkeep. While I didn't stay to see if they cleaned up, given how well organized everything was, I would be very surprised if they didn't.

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DeathQuaker wrote:Sorry for your loss. The tea party seems to have the ring at the moment and after Pelosi loses her day job, I think you'll get it back.Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.
This is a bit irritating going on here and talking about the election. It always depresses me when right-wingers just assume a rally is a liberal meeting place when it's held by liberals.
The Rally was to bring the two parties together, not to motivate the left-wing or anything like that.
Speaking of which, something funny in a sad way. A guy wrote my newspaper complaining about how Jon Stewert and Stephen Colbert didn't use the rally to promote the liberals, because 'so much more could have been accomplished'. Showing that he, who attended, had no clue what it was about.

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Beercifer wrote:DeathQuaker wrote:Sorry for your loss. The tea party seems to have the ring at the moment and after Pelosi loses her day job, I think you'll get it back.Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.
This is a bit irritating going on here and talking about the election. It always depresses me when right-wingers just assume a rally is a liberal meeting place when it's held by liberals.
The Rally was to bring the two parties together, not to motivate the left-wing or anything like that.
Speaking of which, something funny in a sad way. A guy wrote my newspaper complaining about how Jon Stewert and Stephen Colbert didn't use the rally to promote the liberals, because 'so much more could have been accomplished'. Showing that he, who attended, had no clue what it was about.
+1 I'm a right leaning centrist, not in any way in favor of a democratic majority in the house and senate (I'm actually happy that we have a republican house and a democratic senate as that means we get centrist legislation), and I would have given my right arm to have been able to make it to the rally. The assumption that the rally was a liberal thing is kinda annoying (and of course fully harped on by fox news, so I see where you got that impression)

Beercifer |

Am I the only person that thought that Colbert going in front of Congress and wasting their time was the only good use of political dollars this year? I understand he was doing his shtick, I understand that he was full of it. But I would rather have him in front of congress causing rabble rousing as he does, or strippers dancing through that building and have NO legislation performed because every damn time their pens start moving, I lose a bit of my liberties!
I like Colbert and Stewart, no matter how they lean.

Kobold Catgirl |

Kobold Cleaver wrote:+1 I'm a right leaning centrist, not in any way in favor of a democratic majority in the house and senate (I'm actually happy that we have a republican house and a democratic senate as that means we get centrist legislation)...Beercifer wrote:DeathQuaker wrote:Sorry for your loss. The tea party seems to have the ring at the moment and after Pelosi loses her day job, I think you'll get it back.Unfortunately, ratings don't go up just by leaving the TV on. :) (If you TiVo something, that does get tracked, but just watching TV won't track it). You have to be chosen as a Nielsen family and tell them what you watched. :) (I did it once many many years ago--just randomly got a thing in the mail from Neilsen and told them what we watched over the week. They send you a $5 bill too.)
I DID go to the Rally yesterday, and it was great fun. HUGE amounts of people, I felt like I was awash in a sea of millions even if it was realistically 10s of thousands, maybe a few hundred thousand at most. We never even got anywhere near the actual stage or even viewscreens... but there was plenty to see and do with all the people there.
This is a bit irritating going on here and talking about the election. It always depresses me when right-wingers just assume a rally is a liberal meeting place when it's held by liberals.
The Rally was to bring the two parties together, not to motivate the left-wing or anything like that.
Speaking of which, something funny in a sad way. A guy wrote my newspaper complaining about how Jon Stewert and Stephen Colbert didn't use the rally to promote the liberals, because 'so much more could have been accomplished'. Showing that he, who attended, had no clue what it was about.
Hmm...not sure centrist legislation is what we'll get. Even when the Democrats had near total control, the health care bill passed and nobody was happy. It failed to accomplish some things, accomplished too much in others....
Seems like the two parties don't cancel each other out so much as mess everything up. They don't balance the scales, they just make everything wobble a bunch. :P

Dire Mongoose |

Am I the only person that thought that Colbert going in front of Congress and wasting their time was the only good use of political dollars this year? I understand he was doing his shtick, I understand that he was full of it.
Actually, schtick or no, I would say that he shared some genuine insight on the topic at hand, and helped bring attention to an issues that typically gets ignored and maybe shouldn't be.
I don't personally love his schtick, but how nice would it be if everyone who testified before Congress had as much substance to add to the conversation? (Even if his testimony still was mostly schtick.)

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Beercifer wrote:Am I the only person that thought that Colbert going in front of Congress and wasting their time was the only good use of political dollars this year? I understand he was doing his shtick, I understand that he was full of it.Actually, schtick or no, I would say that he shared some genuine insight on the topic at hand, and helped bring attention to an issues that typically gets ignored and maybe shouldn't be.
I don't personally love his schtick, but how nice would it be if everyone who testified before Congress had as much substance to add to the conversation? (Even if his testimony still was mostly schtick.)
I agree with Dire Mongoose. There was a good message behind his satire and the sad thing is it's probably one of the most substantive presentations before Congress there was.
I'm not sure of the situation as to why Colbert went to testify before them, but I thought from watching the testimony that they invited him there, so if even if someone thought he was "wasting their time," it was their choice for it to be wasted.
Hmm...not sure centrist legislation is what we'll get. Even when the Democrats had near total control, the health care bill passed and nobody was happy. It failed to accomplish some things, accomplished too much in others....
Seems like the two parties don't cancel each other out so much as mess everything up. They don't balance the scales, they just make everything wobble a bunch.
I'm worried about that too, Kobold Cleaver. I hope LastKnightLeft is right---theoretically, there's an advantage to moderates and centrists when things are split down the line, but the last two years the theme has seemed to be "just vote against the opposition no matter what" turning any form of compromise into a debacle.
Take this with the broad generalization that it is, but it seems to me that both parties base their legislation these days based on what's going to be said about them on TV, rather than representing their specific constituency. A Congressman from, say, Oklahoma, should be worrying about what the Oklahomans in his district are saying about him, not what some blonde bimbo in a tv studio in New York is saying. It's been a long time since I felt like most politicians actually cared about their constituents and their actual needs (I do feel one of my senators does based on her voting record, and that's why I voted for her for the last few terms, but she seems to be the exception, not the rule).
I realize they can't ignore the media--that is after all how we communicate nationally these days--but there's been a flipover from the politicians trying to please the media pundits rather than the media simply reporting on what the politicians did. And I find it very frightening, frankly.
And to come full circle, that fear and that need for saner political reporting is what the Stewart/Colbert Rally was about. To paraphrase Jon Stewart, every damn day we all work together to get things done, everywhere in America except in Washington, DC and on the news networks.

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