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From the Madness flash series:
Hank: N - Very driven, but only kills bad guys. A LOT of bad guys.
Jebus: LE - Tried to kill Tricky
The Sheriff: NE - Stole Hank's pie!
Tricky the Clown: CE - Chaotic and Evil.
(Don't know their actual knows from here on out)
Administrator: NE
Those Two Guys With Cool Names I Can't Remember Who Helped Hank: N
examples of complete scoundrel:
LG = Batman/Indiana Jones
LN = James Bond
LE = Boba Fett / MagnetoNG = Zorro / Spiderman
N = Lara Croft
NE = Mystique from X-menCG = Malcolm Reynolds / Robin hood
CN = Jack Sparrow / Snake Plissken
CE = Riddick (Pitch black)I agree with those choices, and for Darth Vader, I would put him along LE, he's not the best example, but that would be my category of choice.
I never saw Riddick as Evil. He had a code and he stuck to it. He didn't go looking for people to hurt and he even tried to help from time to time. If you got in his way, he'd kill you, but I'd say more CN, with a slight leaning towards G.
And Mogre...Flagg is evil? Which Flagg is that?
I'd think of Reuben Flagg as more Ng or LN (g)
he probaly means stephen kings randall flagg
@ObligatoryHuman:
jigsaw NE or CE
punisher CN
mario NG
selene no idea
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Henry VIII - NE
Katherine of Aragon - CG
Anne Boleyn - CN
Jane Seymour - CG
Katherine Howard - NE
Katherine Parr - LN
Queen Elizabeth I - NG
Charles the I of England - CN
Oliver Cromwell - LE
Charles the II of England - CN
Edward Longshanks - LN No the Real Longshanks not the Braveheart version
William Wallace - CN Once again not the movie version
Richard the Lion hearted - NE
Prince/King John - CE
George Washington - LG
Abe Lincoln - LG
General US Grant - CG
Robert E Lee - NG
Stonewall Jackson - LG (HATED Slavery, and his wife was dear to him)
General George S Patton - CG
Adolf Hilter - CE
Stalin - LE
Xanatos - LE
Demona - CE
Goliath - SG (stupid good)
MacBeth - LE
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Assigning alignment to RW people is tricky. I'm a historian (and I'm descended or closely related to about 3/4 of the above list)...
Henry VIII was worse after the syphilis hit. But he was basically amoral rather than evil.
Charles I was deeply devout and lawful. You may be thinking of Charles II.
Richard I was very complex - cruel and ruthless and also honorable and pious.
Edward I was ruthless and untrustworthy.
I'm not going to get into the modern people. That's a minefield.
examples of complete scoundrel:
LG = Batman/Indiana Jones
LN = James Bond
LE = Boba Fett / MagnetoNG = Zorro / Spiderman
N = Lara Croft
NE = Mystique from X-menCG = Malcolm Reynolds / Robin hood
CN = Jack Sparrow / Snake Plissken
CE = Riddick (Pitch black)I agree with those choices, and for Darth Vader, I would put him along LE, he's not the best example, but that would be my category of choice.
CG Harry Dresden
CN
CE NicodemusNG Billy & the Alphas
N Thomas
NE Lara RaithLG Murphy & Morgan
LN
LE Gentleman Johnny Marconecouldnt think of examples for CN and LN
THANK YOU! I was waiting for someone to do Dresden Files.
As for what your missing...LN- lea/leansidhe
CN- molly
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LG- Michael carpenter-of course!
Everything else looks spot on, good job.
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Luffy- CG
Nami-CG
Usopp-NG
Zoro-NG
Chopper-NG
Sanji-NG
Robin-CN
Franky-CG
Brook-NG
Blackbeard-CE
Law- CN
Akainu- LN/LE
Kuma-N->LN
Coby-LG
Lucci-NE
Aokiji- LN
Looks about right.
examples of complete scoundrel:
LG = Batman/Indiana Jones
LN = James Bond
LE = Boba Fett / MagnetoNG = Zorro / Spiderman
N = Lara Croft
NE = Mystique from X-menCG = Malcolm Reynolds / Robin hood
CN = Jack Sparrow / Snake Plissken
CE = Riddick (Pitch black)I agree with those choices, and for Darth Vader, I would put him along LE, he's not the best example, but that would be my category of choice.
CG Harry Dresden
CN
CE NicodemusNG Billy & the Alphas
N Thomas
NE Lara RaithLG Murphy & Morgan
LN
LE Gentleman Johnny Marconecouldnt think of examples for CN and LN
THANK YOU! I was waiting for someone to do Dresden Files.
As for what your missing...LN- lea/leansidhe
CN- molly
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LG- Michael carpenter-of course!
I would say Molly is more CG, but going through a crisis
CN - Some of the Fairy Creatures, of course some of them are probably LN as well.
Before the last book, Ghost Story, she would we considered CGI. But now, with what she had to ensure and do, now she is more CN. Even Harry was like, "wtf?! At what she had done/doing...and he's CG. In the last book, she was flat out killing, without restraint who she thought needed the Rag Lady's justice. As for the faeries, they are all lawful. Just like devils are lawful, they have law i'm their boots, if you ask them three times, they must tell the truth, and after they promise you. They must ALWAYS obey their deals. The fact that they use their deals deals and words to have loopholes, if they can, and to misrepresent what they mean, to their advantage, makes them N. .... So, LN. They have strict customs and laws as well, hardly ever breaking them. The one winter princess fae who tried to start the war between summer and winter, would be closer to NN, or CN, than anything else.
In the last book, she was flat out killing, without restraint who she thought needed the Rag Lady's justice. As for the faeries, they are all lawful. Just like devils are lawful, they have law i'm their boots, if you ask them three times, they must tell the truth, and after they promise you. They must ALWAYS obey their deals. The fact that they use their deals deals and words to have loopholes, if they can, and to misrepresent what they mean, to their advantage, makes them N. .... So, LN. They have strict customs and laws as well, hardly ever breaking them. The one winter princess fae who tried to start the war between summer and winter, would be closer to NN, or CN, than anything else.
She was doing it under duress and I am looking at all the novels, which is why I said she was under going a crisis hence the CG statement. If she was CN, she would be having very little conflict about her behavior.
Fairies are bound by certain laws of magic, but I would say it is intrinsic to them. I wouldn't say all humans are Lawful because they must breathe. Alignment is about nature and choice. The Pizza Fairies, steal, have no definable wants, kind of frolic around and just concentrate on not being squashed. I would say they are CN or N at the very least.
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CG Harry Dresden
CN
CE NicodemusNG Billy & the Alphas
N Thomas
NE Lara RaithLG Murphy & Morgan
LN
LE Gentleman Johnny Marconecouldnt think of examples for CN and LN
I would actually list Nicodemus as LE. He's very much willing to abide by any deal he has made and he firmly believes in the powerful rule over the weak and the the smart control the stupid. If you're not able to tell he's lying to you then that's your own fault. I firmly believe he is LE.
And yet devils being lawful is intrinsic to them as well. I still don't see how, even if comparing them to h Uganda they are anything, but lawful. I mean, if they break their own laws, they are severely punished. The personal choice they make is only partly imparted to them due to their alignment. The pizza fairs for instance, at best are true neutral, but are more likely LN.
1. they only really do Hays bidding, if they are bribed with pizza first.
2. They don't steal, they scavenge, collect unwanted things..(toot-toot having a bottle cap for a helmet. If he stile, i'm pretty sure there are better choices.)
3. Of all far, they are unaligned, from both summer and winter, they doesn't mean they don't fille faery laws. If they didn't, they could simply lie to Harry without worrying about the consequences.
If we say that the far are not lawful, then they must be true neutral. Because CN means they are whimsical, do whatever they want, which is certainly not the case for them.
As for Molly, like I said, in all books but the last she would be CGI. But since the books are about progression of character, it would depend on when you want to user her. Also, she is upset more about what she had to do to Dresden, than what she actually us doing. Lea might be training her, but post of the training is making her harder. By the end of the book, the last one, I would day she stats to become CGI again. Again, need to see the next book, THIS YEAR!, to see how she turns out.
Lea/fae- LN or NN
Pizza far- NN or CN
Molly- CG --> starting to be CN
... HOLY CRAP! I forgot about Bob, one of my favorites!
Bob- varies between who owns him, with Harry- NG, dark wizard-NE or CE.
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Stark - LG
Lannister - N or NE
Greyjoy - CE
Bolton - NE
Targaryen - LE
Martell - N
Tyrell - LN
Baratheon - N
Tully - LN
Clegane - CE
I agree with most of these, with a couple of exceptions:
Targaryen - CN overall. The Mad King was Chaotic Evil, Viserys was NE slipping into CE toward the end; Daenerys is CG. Aerys' predecessor, widely regarded as a capable and well-liked, though short lived, king said "Madness and greatness were two sides of the same coin and every time a new Targaryen was born, the gods would toss the coin in the air and the world would hold its breath to see how it would land." CN all over.
Lannister - LN all the way. Tywin was a bit of a Magnificent Bastard, but you learn that is because his father was softhearted to the point of being a joke, and his brother is loyal above all else. Aside from the twins, Jaime and Cersei, they're all about family first. (Even the twins are, you know, in a way.
Baratheon is hard to pin down, but I'd give it to Neutral as well since each brother represents the extremes of Neutrality. I've also heard it was meant to imply the three parts of psyche---Id, Ego, and Superego.
Funny how many people see Punisher as Chaotic. I consider him a textbook case of a Lawful Neutral or Lawful Evil antihero. He hurts and kills bad people because he enjoys it, but will not harm an innocent person or a good person even in self-defense. He is rigorous and methodical and it's clear that his entire life is governed by rules.