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I'd say no. the rogue is using a magical effect but he's not a spellcaster. isn't having upteem d6 of sneak attack damage enough?
I happened to see the feat (I often forget it's there as I don't play casters...ever) and it got me thinking was all. Not trying to munchkin it up or anything.
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No. You don't have the ability to cast spells (it's a spell-like ability) nor do you have a caster level.
I don't know how ANYONE writing a new rule set could leave something like that in the rules after the huge 3.5 debacle surrounding that Apprentice feat.
I even brought that up in my Magus critique.
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Umbral Reaver wrote:No. You don't have the ability to cast spells (it's a spell-like ability) nor do you have a caster level.I don't know how ANYONE writing a new rule set could leave something like that in the rules after the huge 3.5 debacle surrounding that Apprentice feat.
I even brought that up in my Magus critique.
I don't remember this, care to explain?
| Cartigan |
Cartigan wrote:I don't remember this, care to explain?Umbral Reaver wrote:No. You don't have the ability to cast spells (it's a spell-like ability) nor do you have a caster level.I don't know how ANYONE writing a new rule set could leave something like that in the rules after the huge 3.5 debacle surrounding that Apprentice feat.
I even brought that up in my Magus critique.
There was some optional feat (something Apprentice) in a table in Complete Arcana that said "You gain the use of a single [something level] level spell."
That was used by the munchkins to qualify for high level prestige classes at roughly 2nd or 3rd level.
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| IkeDoe |
Uhm, the benefits depend on your Caster Level. You only get a CL for that ability, at least that's how I understand the Rogue's ability.
So, even if you can take the feat, you will never get more than +1 to damage.
I would say that you can take the feat, altough it requires the ability to cast Spells ( not a single spell) but getting that miserable +1 to damage.
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A rogue with this talent gains the ability to cast a 0-level spell from the sorcerer/wizard spell list. This spell can be cast three times a day as a spell-like ability. The caster level for this ability is equal to the rogue's level. The save DC for this spell is 10 + the rogue's Intelligence modifier. The rogue must have an Intelligence of at least 10 to select this talent.
Either you use this caster level or the rogue has no caster level to use.
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Minor Magic (Sp) wrote:A rogue with this talent gains the ability to cast a 0-level spell from the sorcerer/wizard spell list. This spell can be cast three times a day as a spell-like ability. The caster level for this ability is equal to the rogue's level. The save DC for this spell is 10 + the rogue's Intelligence modifier. The rogue must have an Intelligence of at least 10 to select this talent.Either you use this caster level or the rogue has no caster level to use.
True.
However CL isn't a prerequisite for that feat, and you don't need a CL to get the initial +1. You need a CL to get higher bonuses.
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