| Madak |
Question 1:
Under the text for Unarmed Strike for the Monk class it says that a monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet.
May any other character with Improved Unarmed Strike also make attacks using fists, elbows, knees, or feet--or does this apply exclusively to the Monk class? In the normal feat description is does not mention anything like this.
Question 1a:
Could a character with Improved Unarmed Strike, with Two-Weapon Fighting, and wielding a Great Axe make unarmed attacks as their extra attack from Two-Weapon Fighting? For instance, with their feet or by taking a hand off their Great Axe to punch?
Alexander Kilcoyne
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Question 1:
Under the text for Unarmed Strike for the Monk class it says that a monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet.May any other character with Improved Unarmed Strike also make attacks using fists, elbows, knees, or feet--or does this apply exclusively to the Monk class? In the normal feat description is does not mention anything like this.
Question 1a:
Could with Improved Unarmed Strike, Two-Weapon Fighting, and wielding a Great Axe make unarmed attacks as their extra attack from Two-Weapon Fighting? For instance, with their feet or by taking a hand off their Great Axe to punch?
1. Monk only. Handy for when your carrying a weapon already.
1a. Not with a feet but yes you could two weapon fight with a battleaxe and fist for example, although thats a horrible combo. In case this is for a Dwarven Monk, note that you can't combine TWF with Flurry.
| Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus |
Question 1:
Under the text for Unarmed Strike for the Monk class it says that a monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet.May any other character with Improved Unarmed Strike also make attacks using fists, elbows, knees, or feet--or does this apply exclusively to the Monk class? In the normal feat description is does not mention anything like this.
Question 1a:
Could a character with Improved Unarmed Strike, Two-Weapon Fighting, and wielding a Great Axe make unarmed attacks as their extra attack from Two-Weapon Fighting? For instance, with their feet or by taking a hand off their Great Axe to punch?
1. The feat does not specifically say it is restricted to fists, so it is all possible unarmed strikes.
1a. Yes, people also get a little thrown when people realize armor spikes work the same way.
| mdt |
Madak wrote:Question 1:
Under the text for Unarmed Strike for the Monk class it says that a monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet.May any other character with Improved Unarmed Strike also make attacks using fists, elbows, knees, or feet--or does this apply exclusively to the Monk class? In the normal feat description is does not mention anything like this.
Question 1a:
Could with Improved Unarmed Strike, Two-Weapon Fighting, and wielding a Great Axe make unarmed attacks as their extra attack from Two-Weapon Fighting? For instance, with their feet or by taking a hand off their Great Axe to punch?1. Monk only. Handy for when your carrying a weapon already.
1a. Not with a feet but yes you could two weapon fight with a battleaxe and fist for example, although thats a horrible combo. In case this is for a Dwarven Monk, note that you can't combine TWF with Flurry.
I'm sorry, but that's not correct. Unarmed attacks are just that, unarmed attacks. You can make them with fists, kicks, headbutts, whatever. See the quoted rule below.
Unarmed Attacks: Striking for damage with punches, kicks, and head butts is much like attacking with a melee weapon, except for the following:
| Chris P. Bacon |
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:1a. Yes, people also get a little thrown when people realize armor spikes work the same way.What exactly is the proficiency required for attacking with armor spikes?
Actually, I think they're a martial weapon. They're listed as a light martial weapon on the big list-o-weapons.
I've always been unclear about a few things regarding armor spikes, but I won't hijack this thread with them. ^__^
| Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus |
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:1a. Yes, people also get a little thrown when people realize armor spikes work the same way.What exactly is the proficiency required for attacking with armor spikes?
Martial
The spikes count as a martial weapon. If you are not proficient with them, you take a –4 penalty on grapple checks when you try to use them. You can also make a regular melee attack (or off-hand attack) with the spikes, and they count as a light weapon in this case. (You can't also make an attack with armor spikes if you have already made an attack with another off-hand weapon, and vice versa.)
| Mynameisjake |
Question 1:
Under the text for Unarmed Strike for the Monk class it says that a monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet.May any other character with Improved Unarmed Strike also make attacks using fists, elbows, knees, or feet--or does this apply exclusively to the Monk class? In the normal feat description is does not mention anything like this.
Question 1a:
Could a character with Improved Unarmed Strike, with Two-Weapon Fighting, and wielding a Great Axe make unarmed attacks as their extra attack from Two-Weapon Fighting? For instance, with their feet or by taking a hand off their Great Axe to punch?
By my reading of the rules, the answer is "Yes" to both questions.
Be warned, however, that this subject (the second question) has caused much discussion, sometimes heated, on the boards. Check with your DM (if you're a player) or practice your Search-Fu (if a DM) for one of the threads that provides a full range of the various opinions on both sides of the issue.
If it matters, the 3.5 FAQ allowed for both.
Yaramos
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I'd like to add a more-or-less on-topic question: Can someone with IUS use it for AoOs when wielding a reach weapon? For instance, can a figher with a longspear threaten this immediate area?
For that matter, assuming their BAB allows for multiple attacks can they split them between the longspear and unarmed strikes?
| Dabbler |
I'd like to add a more-or-less on-topic question: Can someone with IUS use it for AoOs when wielding a reach weapon? For instance, can a figher with a longspear threaten this immediate area?
For that matter, assuming their BAB allows for multiple attacks can they split them between the longspear and unarmed strikes?
I think 'yes' would be the answer to both questions ... it certainly makes IUS a popular feat if it is ...
| threemilechild |
Yaramos wrote:I think 'yes' would be the answer to both questions ... it certainly makes IUS a popular feat if it is ...I'd like to add a more-or-less on-topic question: Can someone with IUS use it for AoOs when wielding a reach weapon? For instance, can a figher with a longspear threaten this immediate area?
For that matter, assuming their BAB allows for multiple attacks can they split them between the longspear and unarmed strikes?
My interpretation of the rules -- carried over from 3.5 -- is yes, but you should probably check with your DM to make sure that won't be overruled if he thinks you're up to something devious. (My DM originally ruled that I could only threaten with whichever weapon I had used latest, US or longspear.)
It is true that PF removed most of the other ways to threaten a larger area -- spiked chain and whatnot, so I'd be disappointed but not exactly surprised if someday, somebody specifically disallowed it.
As to IUS being a popular feat, I'd think most fighters would just buy a spiked gauntlet. Also good for punching your way out of the bellies of beasts, if you're silly enough to mind being swallowed.