If a Magus has full BAB and falls in the woods...

[Täîg]

...why can't he cast fireball at 1st level?

[houstonderek]

That's a funny looking badger...

[Täîg]

I'm trying to show my...softer side.

[Celestial Hippeh Lawyer]

Täîg wrote:

...why can't he cast fireball at 1st level?

'Cause he used his elemental substitution ability to prepare it as a sonicball spell. Like, durr!

[Nebulous_Mistress]

Because he can stand there and shout

BOOOOM!!!!

That's the same, right?

[M'Tuk'Tuk the Angry Crocodile]

he should be able cast fireball on his sword and hit someone with his sword and then the fireball explodes. as a free action.

[Seriously Broken]

M'Tuk'Tuk the Angry Crocodile wrote:

he should be able cast fireball on his sword and hit someone with his sword and then the fireball explodes. as a free action.

And he's immune to his own fireball. Of course.

[W E Ray]

Because it's smarter to cast Disintigrate.

[CourtFool]

Srsly, just play Hero.

[taig]

CourtFool wrote:

Srsly, just play Hero.

Yeah, but all that point buy makes it impossible to have the equivalent of a full-BAB, full spell-progression, heavy-armor-wearing badass

[Tensor]

Täîg wrote:

...why can't he cast fireball at 1st level?

For the same reason he can't cast teleport.

[JMD031]

He can't??? Darn it!

[Celestial Healer]

Tensor wrote:

Täîg wrote:

...why can't he cast fireball at 1st level?

For the same reason he can't cast teleport.

So you're saying he's underpowered?

[CourtFool]

taig wrote:

CourtFool wrote:

Srsly, just play Hero.

Yeah, but all that point buy makes it impossible to have the equivalent of a full-BAB, full spell-progression, heavy-armor-wearing badass

Oops. You are right. Carry on then.

[Tensor]

Celestial Healer wrote:

Tensor wrote:

Täîg wrote:

...why can't he cast fireball at 1st level?

For the same reason he can't cast teleport.

So you're saying he's underpowered?

I'm saying all anyone really needs is Wish™.