Is Precise Strike precision damage?

[Drillboss D]

To me it looks that by RAI it would be, but by RAW it's not. Nowhere does it mention explicitly that it doesn't get multiplied on a crit, like it does for Sneak Attack. On the other hand, the critical section mentions that extra damage dice and also sneak attack/precision damage never get multiplied. Since sneak attack IS extra damage dice, it seems that saying so would be redundant unless there is other precision damage SOMEWHERE that doesn't crit either.

So I guess the question is... it looks like Precise Strike DOES get multiplied on crits. Is that the intent?

-Drillboss

[Wolfthulhu]

Well, since the text of the feat says:

APG wrote:

Benefit: Whenever you and an ally who also has this

feat are f lanking the same the creature, you deal an
additional 1d6 points of precision damage with each
successful melee attack. This bonus damage stacks with
other sources of precision damage, such as sneak attack.
This bonus damage is not multiplied on a critical hit.

I would guess not.

[Abraham spalding]

Wolfthulhu wrote:

Well, since the text of the feat says:

APG wrote:

Benefit: Whenever you and an ally who also has this

feat are f lanking the same the creature, you deal an
additional 1d6 points of precision damage with each
successful melee attack. This bonus damage stacks with
other sources of precision damage, such as sneak attack.
This bonus damage is not multiplied on a critical hit.

I would guess not.

Um... maybe you miss what you posted:

APG wrote:

Benefit: Whenever you and an ally who also has this

feat are f lanking the same the creature, you deal an
additional 1d6 points of precision damage with each
successful melee attack. This bonus damage stacks with
other sources of precision damage, such as sneak attack.
This bonus damage is not multiplied on a critical hit.

Because it says right there that it is.

[Wolfthulhu]

You are correct...

Well, except for the part where you aren't. And that would be the part where I was answering his question about it not multiplying on a crit. Not his other, similar but different, question about it being precision damage.

In other words, you just said the same thing I did, you just took a different route to get there.

So to recap, for the reading comprehension impaired:

Yes, it is precision damage and no, it does not get multiplied on a crit.

[Drillboss D]

Sorry, screwed up really bad here by not being specific.

Meant the Precise Strike Duelist class feature, not the feat.

Thanks for answering, and I understand that came off as dense, but, better question now?

Thanks again,

-Drillboss

[Abraham spalding]

Wolfthulhu wrote:

You are correct...

Well, except for the part where you aren't. And that would be the part where I was answering his question about it not multiplying on a crit. Not his other, similar but different, question about it being precision damage.

In other words, you just said the same thing I did, you just took a different route to get there.

So to recap, for the reading comprehension impaired:

Yes, it is precision damage and no, it does not get multiplied on a crit.

Except my answer was correct in both cases, also he wasn't asking just if it was or wasn't multipled but if it was percision damage in the first place -- after all as he noted it being precision damage means that it wouldn't multiple to begin with. As such giving him the answer he asked for means that I also answered the secondary question -- the one you answered first.

EDIT:

The duelist precise strike isn't precise damage.

[Drillboss D]

Abraham spalding wrote:

Wolfthulhu wrote:

You are correct...

Well, except for the part where you aren't. And that would be the part where I was answering his question about it not multiplying on a crit. Not his other, similar but different, question about it being precision damage.

In other words, you just said the same thing I did, you just took a different route to get there.

So to recap, for the reading comprehension impaired:

Yes, it is precision damage and no, it does not get multiplied on a crit.

Except my answer was correct in both cases, also he wasn't asking just if it was or wasn't multipled but if it was percision damage in the first place -- after all as he noted it being precision damage means that it wouldn't multiple to begin with. As such giving him the answer he asked for means that I also answered the secondary question -- the one you answered first.

EDIT:

The duelist precise strike isn't precise damage.

Thanks. Much more exciting. Barbarian/Duelist with a heavy pick away!

[Drillboss D]

It does seem weird though. Hoping to find out if they meant it to be.

[DrowVampyre]

It's odd that it's not, but if I recall, the old (3.5) duelist's version was indeed precision damage, but it was rolled, not fixed.

That's usually the indicator - if extra damage comes in the form of dice, you don't multiply it, but if it's static numbers, you do. At least, as far as I know everything follows that pattern.