OK, I know this has been brought up before, but I just saw the thick cardstock monster and character tokens from the new 4E Red Box starter set, and now I really, really wish Paizo would make some!
I think about all the great artwork in the Pathfinder Bestiary, for example, and how awesome it would be to have monster tokens for all of them. I realize you can make your own, but some official, well-made ones would be extremely useful!
I think it would be cool if you could buy a set of tokens for each bestiary that comes out, but also sets for each adventure path. The adventure path ones could come with exactly the tokens you need, and the larger bestiary sets could provide multiples of monsters that are commonly encountered in groups.
These would probably need to be produced on page-size sheets (as opposed to card-size) to be able to accommodate huge, gargantuan, and colossal creatures. Just as long as they aren't random! I don't want to have to buy multiple packs to get the tokens I need.
I know tokens aren't for everybody. If you prefer minis, paper minis (i.e. that stand up), or something else, that's fine. To each their own. But I am curious how many people out there would buy something like this, or if they have any other visions of what these could be like.
I'd probably buy a physical product like this, I'd DEFINITELY buy PDF type products along those line. This is one of my goals to eventually do, create stand ins for the monsters my gaming group uses instead of resorting to using random mini's or dice boxes.
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Did you consider the Pathfinder Paper Minis?
I'd probably buy a physical product like this, I'd DEFINITELY buy PDF type products along those line. This is one of my goals to eventually do, create stand ins for the monsters my gaming group uses instead of resorting to using random mini's or dice boxes.
Hi, Michael. So what would you do with the PDFs? I can see a few options. You could print them on cardstock, although that's kind of flimsy. You could also print them on regular paper and then glue them to something (or just print them on sticker paper). I know some people like to stick them to metal washers so they stay put on the gaming table. I know cutting them out can be a pain. I've seen people use a 1-inch circle or square craft punch. In fact, there's a cool tutorial on that *here*. You can also glue them to magnets if you game on a magnetic whiteboard. Some of these ideas get harder for larger creatures. Anyway, what's your plan?
Did you consider the Pathfinder Paper Minis?
Hi, Lanx. Personally, I'm not a big fan of paper minis. I find that they're a little flimsy, require assembly, don't store easily, etc. My main complaint, however, is the cartoony style of the Pathfinder Paper Minis. Don't get me wrong. The artwork is good (and cute!)--just not what I'm looking for. I don't want to offend anyone who uses paper minis. Like I said, to each their own. With Paizo currently supporting the paper minis and Reaper metal minis, I worry they'll never go for heavy cardstock tokens, though.
+1 million. I don't use minis, paper minis, etc. But I do love tokens w/ art. I bought most of the 3.x Fiery Dragon tokens, and have all of the 4th edition tokens w/ the Claudio Pozas art. And I don't even play 4th edition!
I would absolutely love to see the same done for PF.
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Most GM's I know are obsessed with accurate representations of their monsters, settings, etc. often spending hours drawing intricate maps, assembling/painting mini's, and finding items to serve as "stuff" like crates. It can be very cost prohibitive to buy masses of miniatures. Svevenka makes a good point about the cartoonish imagery with most of the paper mini options. Heavy tokens, similar to the stock used for Wizard's dungeon tile line, with images direct from the Bestiary and Adventure Paths would be awesome!
+1 million. I don't use minis, paper minis, etc. But I do love tokens w/ art. I bought most of the 3.x Fiery Dragon tokens, and have all of the 4th edition tokens w/ the Claudio Pozas art. And I don't even play 4th edition!
I would absolutely love to see the same done for PF.
Hi, BenS. Thanks for the support. I can now tell Paizo with authority that over 1 million people have voted in support of this idea! :)
I've seen the Fiery Dragon tokens, too (I especially like the Battle Box). I like Claudio Pozas' art OK, but not for like every single token! ;p Paizo already has a great stable of art that they could use for these from all different artists.
The Fiery Dragon tokens are square, and the 4E Red Box ones are round; I wonder--what is everyone's preference? Does it matter? You can fit more art on a square token, but I think the circular tokens look better.
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Most GM's I know are obsessed with accurate representations of their monsters, settings, etc. often spending hours drawing intricate maps, assembling/painting mini's, and finding items to serve as "stuff" like crates. It can be very cost prohibitive to buy masses of miniatures. Svevenka makes a good point about the cartoonish imagery with most of the paper mini options. Heavy tokens, similar to the stock used for Wizard's dungeon tile line, with images direct from the Bestiary and Adventure Paths would be awesome!
Hello, TwilightKnight. Yay! More support! I like your idea of dungeon dressing tokens like crates. The possibilities there are virtually endless, though that might require new artwork. Tokens like that would be an added bonus!
I forgot to mention the high cost of miniatures, too. That's one reason I think this would totally rock! If you can just buy a complete set like, say, the Bestiary (as opposed to packs containing a random assortment of tokens), then you don't create a black market a la WotC's D&D minis where people pay exorbitant prices for rare/individually needed minis.
Theres a few possibilities....If an image would print out at proper size (1'x1') (2'x2') ect, then i would have no problem putting the images onto cut pieces of wood, and it would allow me to create with a little preparation a dragon, a mob of zombies, kobolds, ect. I could see this becoming a problem for creatures of SMALL size unfortunately though.
The wood base thing has worked so far in my gaming group, one of our players has a bunch of mage knight miniatures that don't quite fit on the 1x1 grid, so he's removed some of thier bases and replaced them with balsa wood squares. A similar system should work for art. I've tried to resize, crop and otherwise print out art that i've screenshotted from PDF's with very minimal success so if someone DID go through the effort to make it work I'd definitely happily pay for it, either in physical or digital form. Digital form would be more practical though since that way you would not have to pay for 50 kobolds if you never use them, but could print out 20 storm giants if you got in a crazy mood.
Cardboard could work as well as a base, if be a bit flimsier. Cut a section from a pancake or cereal box and use a small plastic tab attached to one side to move or easily pick them up. I'm pretty handy at improvising solutions, i just stink horribly at manipulating the image i need to form the base of the project.
I would definitely like to see Pathfinder tokens! Minis are cool and all, but they can be both expensive and a pain to store. With tokens--or even a PDF-style download that I could print out--my GMing life would be so much easier! :)
The Fiery Dragon tokens are square, and the 4E Red Box ones are round; I wonder--what is everyone's preference? Does it matter? You can fit more art on a square token, but I think the circular tokens look better.
I much, much prefer the square tokens. And the thick cardstock used for the 4th edition tokens makes them perfect, to my mind.
I'd probably prefer either round, or squarish with rounded edges
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Also, one other thing. Full adventure path sets or bestiary sets need to be produced. The random garbage that wotc coast is doing with there plastic minis is ridiculous. Why would I want to but a box of minis not knowing what I am buying? I know what the adventure calls for, so that is what I want to buy. So , either do the whole bestiary in small groups or do full adventure paths. No mix and max random stuff.
I am dying for minis for PFRPG. Dungeon tiles or maps also. The game mastery maps are cool but they can not be used in all adventure paths, meaning you can't change them to suit what the adventure calls for. Your in luck if the adventure happens to use the exact map, some of paizo's stuff dose us the exact maps. But dungeon tiles or something that can be used from adventure to adventure would be killer. Eve if you published paper fold out maps for each adventure path that are exact to the adventure path would be great.
This is one of the big things that draws me to rpg games, is the board game parts of it, maps minis, and the like.
This is an older thread, but I would buy some cardboard or cardstock Bestiary tokens for sure! Even a PDF I could print to make tokens myself would be awesome! I have the Dungeon magazine monster tokens and I love them. I need more! Help Paizo! I'm not computer-smart enough to make them myself!
+ 10.000 yesses
I really like tokens!! But I prefer a huge packet instantly not having to wait for Bestiary 2 and 3 for over a year to happen, that would take too long for me personally as most of my favorites are in Bestiary 2 and 3 and not in bestiary 1...
A huge set of all beasts from the official pathfinder adventure paths, bestiaries and demon-books would be sweet! I'd pay much for that!