It's wands vs. light sabers. Let's get ready to experiamos!
Light sabers cannot block magical attacks.
And now, after Harry received mental defense training from Snape, Luke's Jedi-mind f*~&s, I mean tricks, will have low success probability.
I'm giving the edge to the boy-who-did-not-die. Unless Luke pulls out a blaster, or wins initiative and cuts off Harry's wand wielding arm(s).
[whine]O-ooo...[/whine]
A boy-man who killed a rancor, gangsters, support staff and many, many soldiers vs a wizard boy that cant seem to kill anyone?
Let me think about that... yeah I think we know the answer.
Boy who grows up to blow up a Battlemoon, help blow up another one, defeat the greatest evil in the galaxy versus...who are we kidding, we know the answer.
I'm sure that snake-wizard guy from Harry Potter is the greatest evil in the universe.
That old guy from Star Wars who can shoot blue snacker-lightning out of his fingers would be forced to give the snake-wizard guy hot oil massages after work -- with a happy ending.
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The only thing we can be assured of if these two faced off is the epic level of whining we'd all be subjected to...
"i was gonna go to get some power converters... waaaaaaaaaah"
Round One:
Initiative - Luke 1d20
Initiative - Harry 1d20
Luke uses the force to pull Harry's wand out of his hand.
Ranged touch attack: 1d20
Harry, disarmed runs.
Round 2:
Luke force-leaps while swinging his lightsaber.
Attack; 1d20
Harry dies.
Murderer. ( Plus, he killed someone who was disarmed == Evil )
Now Luke will burn in hell for eternity.
Jedi have to maintain their Lawful Good alignment...from a certain point of view.
Murderer. ( Plus, he killed someone who was disarmed == Evil )
Now Luke will burn in hell for eternity.
If the point of the fight was to defend yourself, then obviously Harry is in it for blood. If the fight went the other way and Harry kills Luke would that still be evil? And don't say Harry wouldn't kill Luke because given the right motivation anyone is capable of killing.
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Round One:
Initiative - Luke 1d20
Initiative - Harry 1d20
Luke uses the force to pull Harry's wand out of his hand.
Ranged touch attack: 1d20
Harry, disarmed runs.
Round 2:
Luke force-leaps while swinging his lightsaber.
Attack; 1d20
Harry dies.
What ruleset t are you using, because it's supposed to be a CMB vs. CMD. And does luke have disarm? The only times I've seen luke disarm someone it was literal, he may sunder, but he doesn't disarm. Force pull sounds like it should have a save. Ranged touch attack and you disarm someone is waaaay to overpowered broken.
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Murderer. ( Plus, he killed someone who was disarmed == Evil )Now Luke will burn in hell for eternity.
"Only Sith belive in absolutes." - Obi Wan Kenobi, the film that called itself Star Wars: Episode III
Terms like "evil" and "murder" sound awfully absolutist. So does the concept of Hell.
:P
Yeah, Good luck on getting George to be consistent about anything he says RE Jedi/the Force. Man's philosophical lobe must be made of marshmallow.
Lucas pretty much destroyed the Force with the whole metachlorian concept.
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What ruleset t are you using, because it's supposed to be a CMB vs. CMD. And does luke have disarm? The only times I've seen luke disarm someone it was literal, he may sunder, but he doesn't disarm. Force pull sounds like it should have a save. Ranged touch attack and you disarm someone is waaaay to overpowered broken.
I was mostly just whimsically rolling vitua-d20's and making up the results according to the numbers. If the results had favored Harry, it probably would have been something like:
Harry uses expeliarmus.
Luke uses force to retrieve lightsaber.
Seeking a more aggressive tact, Harry uses sectum sempra.
Luke falls to the ground, gushing blood.
Lucas pretty much destroyed the Force with the whole metachlorian concept.
Not to mention that you have to start drawing wide lines of canonical exclusion starting in Return to the Jedi, and getting wider as you move on.
Luke is an obvious gish, therefore win button.
Oh wait…is that racists?
Light sabers cannot block magical attacks.
And now, after Harry received mental defense training from Snape, Luke's Jedi-mind f&%&s, I mean tricks, will have low success probability.
I'm giving the edge to the boy-who-did-not-die. Unless Luke pulls out a blaster, or wins initiative and cuts off Harry's wand wielding arm(s).
The force trumps magic, Skywalker for the win.
Thet're tied for the most whiny hero though.|
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What ruleset t are you using, because it's supposed to be a CMB vs. CMD. And does luke have disarm? The only times I've seen luke disarm someone it was literal, he may sunder, but he doesn't disarm. Force pull sounds like it should have a save. Ranged touch attack and you disarm someone is waaaay to overpowered broken.I was mostly just whimsically rolling vitua-d20's and making up the results according to the numbers. If the results had favored Harry, it probably would have been something like:
Harry uses expeliarmus.
Luke uses force to retrieve lightsaber.
Seeking a more aggressive tact, Harry uses sectum sempra.
Luke falls to the ground, gushing blood.
And I was just giving you s@*# for kicks and giggles dude, this may just be the nerdiest discussion ever, so I decided to kick it up a notch with adding ruleslawyer to complete the nerd trifecta.
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Light sabers cannot block magical attacks.
And now, after Harry received mental defense training from Snape, Luke's Jedi-mind f&%&s, I mean tricks, will have low success probability.
I'm giving the edge to the boy-who-did-not-die. Unless Luke pulls out a blaster, or wins initiative and cuts off Harry's wand wielding arm(s).
The force trumps magic, Skywalker for the win.
Thet're tied for the most whiny hero though.
No, anakin takes the gold for that.
...this may just be the nerdiest discussion ever...
Even over Kirk vs. Picard?
No, anakin takes the gold for that.Light sabers cannot block magical attacks.
And now, after Harry received mental defense training from Snape, Luke's Jedi-mind f&%&s, I mean tricks, will have low success probability.
I'm giving the edge to the boy-who-did-not-die. Unless Luke pulls out a blaster, or wins initiative and cuts off Harry's wand wielding arm(s).
The force trumps magic, Skywalker for the win.
Thet're tied for the most whiny hero though.
Aa-awww... I came in second again!
No, anakin takes the gold for that.Light sabers cannot block magical attacks.
And now, after Harry received mental defense training from Snape, Luke's Jedi-mind f&%&s, I mean tricks, will have low success probability.
I'm giving the edge to the boy-who-did-not-die. Unless Luke pulls out a blaster, or wins initiative and cuts off Harry's wand wielding arm(s).
The force trumps magic, Skywalker for the win.
Thet're tied for the most whiny hero though.
Goes to show you that Luke is like his father.
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...this may just be the nerdiest discussion ever...Even over Kirk vs. Picard?
Yes, because that exists within the same universe, Potter/Skywalker are two completely different genres/universes. You have to have a more broadbase nerd cred to follow the arguments, whereas kirk/picard you only have to follow startrek to debate. Therefor Potter/Skywalker > Kirk/picard
Therefor Potter/Skywalker > Kirk/picard
You win for pulling that out of your geek-butt.
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[ And I was just giving you s@!% for kicks and giggles dude, this may just be the nerdiest discussion ever, so I decided to kick it up a notch with adding ruleslawyer to complete the nerd trifecta.
No problem, I wasn't offended or pissed off or anything. ;)
Rules-lawyering between two incompatible systems: HARDCORE
Yes, because that exists within the same universe, Potter/Skywalker are two completely different genres/universes. You have to have a more broadbase nerd cred to follow the arguments, whereas kirk/picard you only have to follow startrek to debate. Therefor Potter/Skywalker > Kirk/picard...this may just be the nerdiest discussion ever...Even over Kirk vs. Picard?
I knew that there was something I liked about you! :D
Potter vs. Skywalker? They're both whiny b%**#es.
River Tam wins.
Brain damaged loony, give me Kaylee or Simon, maybe both.
Light sabers cannot block magical attacks.
And now, after Harry received mental defense training from Snape, Luke's Jedi-mind f&%&s, I mean tricks, will have low success probability.
I'm giving the edge to the boy-who-did-not-die. Unless Luke pulls out a blaster, or wins initiative and cuts off Harry's wand wielding arm(s).
The force trumps magic, Skywalker for the win.
Thet're tied for the most whiny hero though.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
I've seen a huge variety of magic spells and magic schools. Not to mentions tons of books and games featuring wizards and their magic. There is only one movie with Force power in it, and then only a few uses of it are demonstrated..
Metachlorian for the loss. Again.
Light sabers cannot block magical attacks.
And now, after Harry received mental defense training from Snape, Luke's Jedi-mind f&%&s, I mean tricks, will have low success probability.
I'm giving the edge to the boy-who-did-not-die. Unless Luke pulls out a blaster, or wins initiative and cuts off Harry's wand wielding arm(s).
The force trumps magic, Skywalker for the win.
Thet're tied for the most whiny hero though.Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
I've seen a huge variety of magic spells and magic schools. Not to mentions tons of books and games featuring wizards and their magic. There is only one movie with Force power in it, and then only a few uses of it are demonstrated..
Metachlorian for the loss. Again.
Harry Potter only had to fight Voldemort, who he allready beat once before when he was in diapers. Luke Skywalker had to fight George Lucas who has the power of creative control over evreyone in the SW universe.
Skywalker for the win.
I just realized that Harry Potter can draw upon Time Travel. Maybe he could go back to when Luke was a boy and kill his parents. Now that would be a story.
Edit: Notice the position of his step-father is on >this chart< .
If the point of the fight was to defend yourself, then obviously Harry is in it for blood. If the fight went the other way and Harry kills Luke would that still be evil? And don't say Harry wouldn't kill Luke because given the right motivation anyone is capable of killing.Murderer. ( Plus, he killed someone who was disarmed == Evil )
Now Luke will burn in hell for eternity.
Harry would kill Luke to protect the life of Dumbledore... oh wait, the D. man is dead, so that logic is of no use now.
I guess Luke is evil after all.
Round One:
Initiative - Luke 1d20
Initiative - Harry 1d20
Luke uses the force to pull Harry's wand out of his hand.
Ranged touch attack: 1d20
Harry, disarmed runs.
Round 2:
Luke force-leaps while swinging his lightsaber.
Attack; 1d20
Harry dies.
This, without the killing the unarmed opponent part.
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Please luke, force-choke the little malform!
And after he's done with the force-choke, he can ask Hermoine Granger out. Hubba hubba.
Luke "Glass-jaw" Skywalker.
I'm sure that snake-wizard guy from Harry Potter is the greatest evil in the universe.
That old guy from Star Wars who can shoot blue snacker-lightning out of his fingers would be forced to give the snake-wizard guy hot oil massages after work -- with a happy ending.
Hubba hubba!
So what about:
Darth Vader v Voldemort v Suruman v Rastalin.
Or
Fizban v Gandalf v Dumbeldor v Merlin.
Luke, enraged at meeting the only protagonist whinier than he is, gives in to his anger and pulls his old man's really cool force choke on Harry Potter, squishing larynx and drowning the 'tardlet in his own bood. Obi-Wan, Anakin the Older and Yoda's blue ghosts cheer him on, glad to rid the nerd-verse of The Whiniest Protagonist Ever.
Afterwards, the orbiting armada of repurposed Star Destroyers wipes out Hogwart's from orbit. Hermioni's fate is best left to deviant fan-fiction. AT-ATs and assorted star fighters mop up the magical strongholds. Ewoks cook griffons on bonfires.
Generations later the magical rebellion spawns Episodes VII, VIII and IX to complete "the trilogy of trilogies". Lucas turns over in his grave.
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Luke, enraged at meeting the only protagonist whinier than he is
"Mr. Skywalker, have you had the pleasure of meeting Ms. Buffy Summers?"
"Charmed, I'm sure."
Luke, enraged at meeting the only protagonist whinier than he is"Mr. Skywalker, have you had the pleasure of meeting Ms. Buffy Summers?"
"Charmed, I'm sure."
The movie Buffy was not a whiney emo wenchling. :P
But ... if the lasses show up ... ... then let orbital bombardments solve the rest of the problem. ^_^
Ellen Ripley or Sarah Connor?