I have a CotCT character - a wizard - who was raised in the worship of Abadar.
The events of "Seven Days to the Grave" have given him doubt about his faith. Specifically, the doctrinal requirement that a Priest of Abadar must charge full price for any healing spell.
This has caused him to question the wisdom of these teachings.
This is my character's dilemma.
So, what should be required - in play - for such a character to change is religious faith?
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In the absense of any class features that are powered by a divine source (ie Cleric, Druid, Oracle, Paladin, or Ranger) it's just a roleplaying issue. As for druids, oracles, and rangers, it would really depend on the campaign/DM. These classes don't USUALLY focus on a specific god, but switching from the god of nature to the god of commerce would likely have some sort of detrimental affect on a druid.
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Do you mean rules-wise or role-playing-wise? Rules wise, nothing (if they aren't a divine caster). There is no functional benefit to what religion your character is, so there's no rules for it.
RP-wise, maybe it's time for your character to seek out a priest to discuss his religious crisis. Fortunately, the church of Asmodeus is always open for business...
Do you mean rules-wise or role-playing-wise? Rules wise, nothing (if they aren't a divine caster). There is no functional benefit to what religion your character is, so there's no rules for it.
RP-wise, maybe it's time for your character to seek out a priest to discuss his religious crisis. Fortunately, the church of Asmodeus is always open for business...
That is what he was thinking also, but perhaps I should start with the Bank of Abadar before looking elsewhere.
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It seems to me that your character might be shifting from the worship of Abadar to that of Erastil, which need not cause an uproar, as they are close on the alignment scale and have rather compatible, or even similar, portfolios.
However, it all depends on how your GM sees the polytheistic nature of Golarion, especially in the city where your character lives. Are different religions intolerant of each other, even if of close, or even of the same alignment ?
Your GM might take into account that, according to the Campaign Setting, Abadar and Erastil, though strong allies, sometimes come into conflict through differences of opinion, perhaps on the very same point that has your character reevaluating his faith.
Very interesting RP opportunity in any case.
The answer is in line with the detail of your role play. Were you active in the other religion, have contacts, identity, favourite haunts? If its purely a mechanical advantage and that's all its ever been you can pretty it up but its much the same.
If you haven't drawn a religion into your character identity and this is a chance to do so I'd certainly approve if I were the DM. This should be an RP opportunity not a failing, especially if you aren't a Cleric or Paladin.
Put some creativity into it and send your DM a plan that will knock his socks off. Don't forget to include how you are ending relationships with your old religion. Perhaps you can find leaders, haunts and causes for your new religion as you say goodby to old.
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In a polytheistic society even if one was raised to favor a particular god that person would still acknowledge the existance and value of other deities in the pantheon. Therefore you are not "changing religion" you are simply shifting focus with in the same religion, the Pantheistic Faith of Golarion (or instert your home country).
To answer your topic question: "they want to"
It seems to me that your character might be shifting from the worship of Abadar to that of Erastil, which need not cause an uproar, as they are close on the alignment scale and have rather compatible, or even similar, portfolios.
I was thinking Iomedae, but your right Erastil would likely be closer to where my character (Konrad) is actually starting from.
Your GM might take into account that, according to the Campaign Setting, Abadar and Erastil, though strong allies, sometimes come into conflict through differences of opinion, perhaps on the very same point that has your character reevaluating his faith.
If I remember correctly, this point of contention that I am running into is one of their primary disputes.
The answer is in line with the detail of your role play. Were you active in the other religion, have contacts, identity, favourite haunts?
Not only have I been active in the religion, but a highly visible one as well ... =80
... so my leaving the faith could be a huge public relations failure.
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The answer is in line with the detail of your role play. Were you active in the other religion, have contacts, identity, favourite haunts?Not only have I been active in the religion, but a highly visible one as well ... =80
** spoiler omitted **
... so my leaving the faith could be a huge public relations failure.
Very, very interesting opportunity for your GM and your character to explore the political and very earthly side of spiritual organisations (ie, a religion). I think I envy you.
Character gets mad and stops going to church. I would only pick up another deity if he sees one that fits him much better. Otherwise he may pay homage on special days, before a voyage at sea, when getting married and things like that.
Another tack would be to decide that the clergy of Abadar are not perfect and try to change the system. You could be like a modern Catholic who believes that the church should condone birth control. You are still an Abadarite, but you have a hot button issue with the way the clerics handle healing.
It is an interesting point. The write up on Abadar (from Pathfinder#8) says that:
"He does not believe in free handouts, and because of this his temples sell potions and healing spell or scrolls rather then giving them to those in need." (Pathfinder#8 p65)
That actually has a fair amount of "wiggle room." So it is possible that his clerics are mis-interpreting his teaching . Of course, since clerical magic is a primary source of income for the church, the priests may resist such a "liberal" interpretation.
This could get interesting. ;)