I have a question on the Tibbit race printed in the Dragon Compendium for 3.5, is this race fine as is or do you think this race needs updated at all?
i could really use some input on this
As long as they're monks, they'll be fine. ^_- (Just because a kung fu kitty is an awesome mental image.)
Seriously though, they seem fine. They had no LA in 3.5, so you might want to give them an extra +2 to something (Wisdom or Charisma, probably), and switch them to humanoid instead of monstrous humanoid...
i could really use some input on this
theyd need an additional +2 somewhere. charisma is my opinion. id also look over their shape change ability and ensure thats its inline with pathfinder rules. probably the beast shape spell or take a look at how the rules for the doppelgangers ability.
They are extremely powerful, as is. I have a friend that plays in a game with Tibbets as a player race and 'everyone' replaces dead characters with Tibbets. That is, two of the 7-8 players. The size change and the ability to 'blend in' are the game changing abilities.
Theirs IS a 3.5 game, so your mileage may vary.
I would say that the tibbit is pretty solid without many modifications. Remove the -5 penalty to their bite attack, change Spot to Perception, and Jump to Acrobatics then you are pretty much set.
I would suggest against bringing the polymorph effect in-line with the beast shape spells because I think they are a bit too powerful for a low-level character to have at will (even if it were limited to cat form only).
If I had to suggest an ability score to give a +2 bonus to, I would suggest Wisdom. That might bring the race into line with the other updated Pathfinder races, but I think that most players don't really need any extra incentive to play a tibbit.
I would suggest against bringing the polymorph effect in-line with the beast shape spells because I think they are a bit too powerful for a low-level character to have at will (even if it were limited to cat form only)
Perhaps setting the shape change from at will to say, 3/day?
I would suggest against bringing the polymorph effect in-line with the beast shape spells because I think they are a bit too powerful for a low-level character to have at will (even if it were limited to cat form only)Perhaps setting the shape change from at will to say, 3/day?
Even at 1/day I think that the bonus given by beast shape II (which covers becoming a tiny animal) are too much compared to the bonuses other races get. I think that decreasing the size penalty to Dexterity and increasing the penalty to Strength to match the tibbit's adjustments in Dragon Compendium make the benefits work for a low level character.
Perhaps a staggered progression as with the 3.5 flying race, the Raptors, might serve as a model for the abilities grading by level?
Perhaps a staggered progression as with the 3.5 flying race, the Raptors, might serve as a model for the abilities grading by level?
It's sort of like racial levels, but without the having to take a level in your race then. I'm iffy on the execution, ok with the core concept of it.
Perhaps a staggered progression as with the 3.5 flying race, the Raptors, might serve as a model for the abilities grading by level?
That can work out as well if you want to still go that route. I just don't really want tibbit's in my game having their alternate form become much, much stronger than a normal cat as they level.
I guess my real problem is having any race get all their benefits at the start and never advancing with any as they progress in levels.
I guess my real problem is having any race get all their benefits at the start and never advancing with any as they progress in levels.
In that case, if you want to have racial abilities improve with levels, I think that improving the ability scores of the tibbit alternate form is a good idea.