The Red Dragon and Fly skill.


Rules Questions


Now looking at the stat block for the Ancient Red Dragon. His/her skill modifier on fly is only +11 when it should be +13. So I'm assuming I've missed a penalty, what -2 have I missed? Or has someone given the dragon a colossal penalty to fly instead of a gargantuan penalty?

+ 25 ranks for 25 HD, +3 Trained Class Skill= 28

-1 for 8 Dex, -6 for Gargantuan size, -8 for clumsy manuverability= -15

28 - 15= 13


Maybe it only has 23 ranks in it?


Glutton wrote:
Maybe it only has 23 ranks in it?

I don't think so. It has a total of 11 skills chosen with 11 skill points total each HD.


It looks like an error due to selecting the wrong size penalty. It probably needs an errata.


ShadowViper wrote:

Now looking at the stat block for the Ancient Red Dragon. His/her skill modifier on fly is only +11 when it should be +13. So I'm assuming I've missed a penalty, what -2 have I missed? Or has someone given the dragon a colossal penalty to fly instead of a gargantuan penalty?

+ 25 ranks for 25 HD, +3 Trained Class Skill= 28

-1 for 8 Dex, -6 for Gargantuan size, -8 for clumsy manuverability= -15

28 - 15= 13

Creatures with a fly speed receive this skill for free as a class skill. They also receive a bonus (or penalty) on all Fly checks depending on their maneuverability:

* Clumsy –8
* Poor –4
* Average +0
* Good +4
* Perfect +8

A creature larger or smaller than Medium takes a size bonus or penalty on Fly checks depending on its size category:

* Fine +8
* Diminutive +6
* Tiny +4
* Small +2
* Large –2
* Huge –4
* Gargantuan –6
* Colossal –8

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