Any chance of a minis subforum?


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Sovereign Court

Not only do Paizo sell a big range of minis, they also produce their own ever expanding range of minis.

I want to ask for tips, share ideas and link to photos of my minis for advice (i.e. I have just started using GW transfers to decorate some of my pathfinder minis and want to get ideas for magical runes).

Could we have a Pathinder Minis subforum? There's one for modules, PFS, CS etc...

It could cover paper minis as well.


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RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8

That would be nice, especially since mini discussions tend to get spread all over the place (some are in advice, some are in Gamer Talk, etc.).

If a new subforum isn't a good idea, clear guidelines about where to set up those threads would be great. Thanks.

Sovereign Court

DeathQuaker wrote:
If a new subforum isn't a good idea, clear guidelines about where to set up those threads would be great. Thanks.

Absolutely, I would prefer a subforum but just clear guidance would be helpful.

Scarab Sages

This would be cool. Even though I don't paint minis, I do use them in my games, and a single area to visit for that type of discussion would be excellent.


Agreed on all of the above

I use minis, but am too hamfisted to paint them, but will spend ages getting unique and perfect figs for encounters/characters etc... Would be useful to swap all kinds of mini ideas, views and advice and its pretty much a natural extension of many of the other thread conversations.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32

I'd love to have a critical mass of messageboarders in a minis subforum. It would make it much easier to post here with painting questions.

I never know where to post and usually go to Another Site(TM) for mini-painting questions.

Inline image posting would make it all even better, but that's another kettle of worms ;-)

Scarab Sages

Teter? TEEEEEEEETEEEEERRRRRR!!!! Can we have a minis subforum? PLEEEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler:
There's a theory that if you mention the PMG by name he immediately notices your thread.

Liberty's Edge

yes, minis subforum, please!!!

Contributor

I approve of this suggestion. :)

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16

Count me in.

Scarab Sages

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And me.

have all the mini discussions in one place...bliss.

Sczarni

sanwah68 wrote:

And me.

have all the mini discussions in one place...bliss.

+1

Sovereign Court

Hoo-ray.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

I like this suggestion, especially if there is a subforum for terrain as well.

Contributor

LOVE this idea! Would love a forum to discuss terrain hints, mini acquisition, trading, and, you know...stuff...

I can tell you guys all about how I'm making boneyard terrain and mini weapons from real shrew bones...


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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
I approve of this suggestion. :)

Of course *you* would. Getting your support for this is like shooting fireball at a full plate wearing 1st level fighter. :P

Now how bout you go find the PMG and prompt him? ;/

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

I'm leery of adding to the number of forums we have, but you're right, we don't really have a single place for this kind of discussion. We'll talk about it.

Sovereign Court

Gary Teter wrote:
I'm leery of adding to the number of forums we have, but you're right, we don't really have a single place for this kind of discussion. We'll talk about it.

Would threats or bribes help?

Liberty's Edge

Gary Teter wrote:
I'm leery of adding to the number of forums we have, but you're right, we don't really have a single place for this kind of discussion. We'll talk about it.

Having a designated forum for Pathfinder minis enthusiasts will greatly increase interest in the product among other players and GMs. Also the more we, minis fans, talk about painting and our favorite figs, the more we are apt to buy more. This being common sense I’m not sure why the forum is not up yet.

Dark Archive

Of course, once we have a minis forum, we will want to be able to post pics of minis.

But a forum and links and photobucket will sate us for this turn of the moon....

Sovereign Court

+1

Sovereign Court

Gary Teter wrote:
I'm leery of adding to the number of forums we have, but you're right, we don't really have a single place for this kind of discussion. We'll talk about it.

crosses fingers, smiles sweetly

Dark Archive

I will go on a hunger strike until we get a minis forum....

Yeah who am i kidding....please please please can you do a mini forum?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

I'd like to point out that there are folks talking about two different things here, and the distinction is important.

Some of you are asking for a forum to talk about officially licensed Pathfinder Miniatures (which, if it were to exist, would probably be under Messageboards > Paizo Publishing > Pathfinder > Pathfinder Miniatures). But some of you are asking about a forum to talk about minis in general (which, if it were to exist, would probably be under Messageboards > Paizo Community > Gaming > Miniatures).

There probably isn't enough traffic to justify the brand-specific topic—and even if we did, it would probably get a lot of posts about "which WotC prepainted mini should I use for my dwarven illusionist?", which really isn't the point.

There *might* be enough traffic to justify the generic topic, but if we didn't *also* create the specific topic, we'd essentially be encouraging discussion of Pathfinder products outside of the Pathfinder forum, which seems... lame.

And adding *two* boards—at least one of which would probably not have all that much traffic—is asking kind of a lot.

I'm without a good answer here. Your thoughts?

Contributor

If I may be so bold:

The Pathfinder minis already have product pages, and are already in the product forum, and being right there at the top of the page, I think Reaper's PF minis have lots of spotlight and love.

Minis (in general), maps, terrain and battlemaps are such a huge part of gaming, whether you're meticulously painting your own or buying hordes of cheap pre-paint skeletons on eBay. I think a generic forum for minis, and other tabletop markers might be overdue, and while conversations about official PF products will most certainly be a part of that, I think anyone looking for info on the official line can find it in the product listings and product discussion threads, where each mini has its own entry with lots of love.

My vote for a generic mini forum! =-)


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Vic Wertz wrote:

There *might* be enough traffic to justify the generic topic, but if we didn't *also* create the specific topic, we'd essentially be encouraging discussion of Pathfinder products outside of the Pathfinder forum, which seems... lame.

I'm without a good answer here. Your thoughts?

I would think that a generic miniatures forum would be nice. There is already plenty of discussion of Pathfinder products in the general gaming forums here and there. I would think that if the occasional player of other games decides that the best dwarven ranger miniature for their character happens to be a Reaper Pathfinder mini, it's a win-win for everyone. If a Pathfinder player happens to like some non-paizo miniatures that's probably ok too.

I would make the topic description include map tiles and other modelling as well. It'd give SKR (and others) a good place to post his occasional painting tips and such.

I myself use a wide variety of miniatures for PRPG and other games.


I've actually been wondering for awhile where would be the best place to put my miniature painting questions.

I kind of asked some general miniature questions in the Angel of Radiance product listing (though they did relate to that model too), but I'd rather avoid that when I can and post in a more general miniatures forum if one were available.

Liberty's Edge

a generic miniatures/modeling forum would suffice.

Dark Archive

Brandon Hodge wrote:

The Pathfinder minis already have product pages, and are already in the product forum, and being right there at the top of the page, I think Reaper's PF minis have lots of spotlight and love.

Minis (in general), maps, terrain and battlemaps are such a huge part of gaming, whether you're meticulously painting your own or buying hordes of cheap pre-paint skeletons on eBay. I think a generic forum for minis, and other tabletop markers might be overdue, and while conversations about official PF products will most certainly be a part of that, I think anyone looking for info on the official line can find it in the product listings and product discussion threads, where each mini has its own entry with lots of love.

My vote for a generic mini forum! =-)

This says what I was going to. Leave the Mini Products pages as they are now, for discussion of the individual minis you sell. But a general "Mini's/Maps/Terrain" forum for us poor souls who never got enough glue and paper play as children.. :)


+1 for generic - the Pathfinder minis sit nicely in the Pathfinder products threads.

Scarab Sages

Agree that a generic minis forum (or subforum) is the way to go.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Another vote for a generic minis forum.

Sovereign Court

There aren't really many Pathfinder-specific things to discuss, beyond speculation/requests for upcoming minis.

There aren't any rules for painting a dwarven ranger and any advise is as applicable to non-pathfinder minis as it is the the PF line.

So, I would also suggest a generic forum. You may see the odd PF reference there but it will be more about sharing tips, ideas and experiences.

My OP was prompted by a desire to ask about creating custom bases, for example.


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Vic Wertz wrote:
Your thoughts?

this is one i'd like to see:

Messageboards > Paizo Community > Gaming > Miniatures

i think itd get more traffic thru than one based only on the pathfinder specific miniatures; those thread usually live with the product itself.

tho if someone wanted to discuss painting one in the above mentioned forum, thatd be awesome and welcomed.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Messageboards > Paizo Community > Gaming > Miniatures

+1

This sounds like a great idea. I think 'selection, modeling and painting' questions/threads would also be welcomed under that title. Brand specific forums would likely be redundant.

So I guess we're not getting a 'mini sub' forum then. *sigh*

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32

Vic Wertz wrote:

And adding *two* boards—at least one of which would probably not have all that much traffic—is asking kind of a lot.

I'm without a good answer here. Your thoughts?

Well, I imagine that most of the PF-specific PF minis are discussed on their own product pages, so that would leave the non-specific board under Gaming for swapping painting tips and so on. "Which mini is best for monster X" questions will probably stay on (or get moved to) the AP board where monster X has been sighted.

Though that's just me, and I'm biased towards a separate, general minis board! :-)

Thanks for taking the time to ponder this seriously, Vic.

Sovereign Court

Current threads I am waiting to post, thinking caps on hombres:

-Advise on how to create dungeon floor style bases. Most of my heroes are out on the heath (layer of sand, then few stones (aqua gravel for fishtanks) and a layer of static grass. This seems inappropriate for quite a few villains, fits ogres fine but ghouls, sinspawn and those BBEGs who you know will only be encountered in the heart of the dungeon.

-How to paint disturbing flesh, zombies, ghouls, sinspawn, these things need icky flesh and I'm struggling to get a good effect.

RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8

GeraintElberion wrote:

Current threads I am waiting to post, thinking caps on hombres:

-Advise on how to create dungeon floor style bases. Most of my heroes are out on the heath (layer of sand, then few stones (aqua gravel for fishtanks) and a layer of static grass. This seems inappropriate for quite a few villains, fits ogres fine but ghouls, sinspawn and those BBEGs who you know will only be encountered in the heart of the dungeon.

The easy if perhaps pricey way:

Buy pre-made bases with the kind of terrain you'd like. (These are not the only ones out there; they're just an example and I'm sure the Paizo store has more)

For wood: Cut popsicle sticks or balsa into thin strips and layer on the base. Paint as you see fit.

For homemade, stone floor bases:
- Get the following items together:
-- Green stuff (or your favorite sculpting putty)
-- A hobby knife
-- If you have on hand, any sculpting/wax carvers/dental tools
-- A straight pin (or other thin pointy pointed thing)
-- Vaseline
-- Water (in a container of some sort)
-- Some clear plastic to lay over your workspace

* Mix together the epoxy putty. You want a small ball, maybe roughly a 1/4 to 1/2 inch in diameter.

* Spread in small chunks the putty all over the base. If the model is already glued to the base, be sure the putty doesn't go higher than the bottoms of the model's feet. Otherwise just spread it all over the base. Smooth the putty with a finger covered in vaseline and/or a knife and/or a sculpting tool of your choice

* With the dull side of the hobby knife or sculpting tool of your choice, very slightly wet or covered lightly in vaseline, carefully and lightly carve a stone floor pattern. It does not need to be even--just carve indentations to make it look like laid out masonry floor.

* Carefully resmooth anything that got mucked up as you did this.

* Also use your putty knife or sculpting tool to make slight lines and lesions in the stone to give it some texture. It's hard to describe this; just use your instincts.

* Optional: with your straight pin (wetted and/or vaselined) poke a few tiny little dots in some random spots on the "stones" -- do some close together, some by themselves. This adds a little bit of a "pocked stone" look. If you're afraid you'll mess it up, it's okay to skip this.

* Let putty cure. If it looks way too uneven or the "stones" look too round/smooth, use a needle file to flatten out the base a bit. You can also carefully use your putty knife to carve away excess.

Prime and paint along with your model. A very easy, nice looking paint scheme is to base coat a medium gray (e.g. Citadel Codex Gray), then coat with a brown wash or ink (e.g., Citadel Wash Devlan Mud), and then once you are absolutely sure ink is dry, dry brush with a light gray.

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-How to paint disturbing flesh, zombies, ghouls, sinspawn, these things need icky flesh and I'm struggling to get a good effect.

These paint colors may be useful to you.

Some Web searches may help. I tend to do it by trial and error. I usually base with a brown or a green and mix the above off-grey-green colors with some actual flesh tones.

Contributor

GeraintElberion wrote:
-Advise on how to create dungeon floor style bases. Most of my heroes are out on the heath (layer of sand, then few stones (aqua gravel for fishtanks) and a layer of static grass. This seems inappropriate for quite a few villains, fits ogres fine but ghouls, sinspawn and those BBEGs who you know will only be encountered in the heart of the dungeon.

Hirst Arts has many, many kinds of cast-your-own-bricks molds, including flat stone, broken stone, Egyptian, and other floor tiles. Molds 201, 203, 204, 205, 260, 268, 281, 290, 291, 292.

Here's a link to a page with all their floor tile molds: Hirst Arts floor tiles page

I especially like mold 203... heck, I'd send you a handful of pieces I cast but you're across the ocean and it would (A) cost a lot to do so, and (B) take a year to get there. If you don't want to invest in one of these molds, ask online if there are people in your area that would cast you some. The molds work with plaster of paris (fragile but cheap), dental plaster (sturdy but more expensive than plaster of paris), and resin (light, reasonably durable, cost is in the middle).

Jodi took a pic of some 203 floor tiles I've cast... cracked floor tiles... I coulda sworn they were 1" across but I guess they're 1.5" ... if you get someone to cast some floor tiles for you, make sure you know the size first!

Anyway, they're cool, and if you have the mold you can cast a zillion of them. Or use them for actual floors in terrain. :)

GeraintElberion wrote:
-How to paint disturbing flesh, zombies, ghouls, sinspawn, these things need icky flesh and I'm struggling to get a good effect.

For the ghouls I'm working on, I did a base coat in light purple, drybrushed with a light gray, then drybrushed with a pale flesh color. Gives them a nice "bruised, half-dead, but definitely flesh" look of a walking corpse.

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Awesome, thankyou. I've got some fimo at home. so I'll give Deathquaker's bases a go. And Sean's ghoul tips.

Sean, those molds are awesome, my girlfriend will never forgive you :D

See this Vic and Gary? This is why I want a minis subforum.

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

We now have a miniatures forum. If you run across a thread that should be moved there, please flag it with "thread is in wrong forum." Thanks!

Sczarni

Gary Teter wrote:
We now have a miniatures forum. If you run across a thread that should be moved there, please flag it with "thread is in wrong forum." Thanks!

Not sure if there's a safeguard against flagging multiple posts quickly... it let my first flag through, the others I'm getting a popup saying "there was a problem processing your flag" for This one and This one I know the three I found are kind of old, but they are threads that I go back to over and over again for tips


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Gary Teter wrote:
We now have a miniatures forum.

i have seen it! and it is good! awesome thank you PMG!

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

Cpt_kirstov wrote:
Not sure if there's a safeguard against flagging multiple posts quickly... it let my first flag through, the others I'm getting a popup saying "there was a problem processing your flag" for This one and This one I know the three I found are kind of old, but they are threads that I go back to over and over again for tips

That was a temporary glitch in the flagging system. I've moved the threads. Thanks!

Contributor

Thanks, Gary!

Sovereign Court

Virtual hugs, beers, etc. for Gary.

thankyou.

RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8

GeraintElberion wrote:
Awesome, thankyou. I've got some fimo at home. so I'll give Deathquaker's bases a go. And Sean's ghoul tips.

If you use fimo, I'd just make the whole base out of them since you have to bake fimo to make it cure (unless I'm thinking of the wrong stuff).

Fimo will be less sticky than sculpting putty though.

PS: Yes, yay for the new forum!


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Thanks, Gary!

+1

Scarab Sages

Gary Teter wrote:
We now have a miniatures forum. If you run across a thread that should be moved there, please flag it with "thread is in wrong forum." Thanks!

Proof, once again, that PMG kicks ass and deserves to have many people buy him beers.

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